I might sound harsh on our servicemen, here, but I don't have anything against people who served. My quarrel is mostly with the people calling the shots. I just don't think they deserve that kind of loyalty.
I take issue with the whole normalization of America having a martial society with imperial ambitions. The Founding Fathers were, in large part, isolationists who didn't want American lives and treasure to be wasted on becoming an empire. Now, our leaders take their marching orders from Chatham House and the BIS and predictably spend American lives on armed conflicts, enforcing currency hegemony.
I wrote a few days ago on another substack - if the high-ups want to fight a war, they go first, just like in old times. Many kings and princes died in battle. Only in the last few 100 years the high heads sit safely somewhere in a castle or a bunker. So presidents, kings, their children, and all those that want war, including the ceo of the weapon industries, all go to war first. And when some others want to go, go ahead! Then we and our children can live on peacefully. Is there anyone who really wants to go fighting? I know a few people who are in coast guard, they seem to be different because they are defense. But all those that go overseas to fight a war to saveguard the rich people's richess, no way!
Sep 24, 2023·edited Sep 26, 2023Liked by Spartacus
"I referred to soldiers as people who get bitten with a patriotism bug and go overseas to murder people they don’t know."
Nothing wrong with saying that - I'd say you were being nice. Soldiers are well-programmed Bots who kill people because a politician working for the Deep State Elite told them to. They stupidly believe they have to obey authority and follow orders - no they don't. The Nuremberg defense does not absolve them from punishment. They are murderers and should be electrocuted. Can I say that, or is it not politically correct?
I come from a family of officers going back to the Norman Conquest who led men into battle and killed thousands. My father is a mass murderer; a combat infantry Colonel with a silver star and two bronze stars. According to the Concord historians, an ancestor's actions precipitated the American Revolution. Got another ancestor who was army Chief of Staff and a Fort named after another. Was going to lie about my age to get into Vietnam but saw through the programming and joined the anti-war movement.
I would have been a good soldier. Heck, I was basically in boot camp from age 1 to 18 and read Army field manuals and had every imaginable toy gun, including a 50 cal. on a tripod before age 8. Made hundreds of model tanks, ships, and aircraft authentically detailed. I booby-trapped the backyard from a Special Forces boobytrap manual with cunningly camouflaged pits and artfully placed leg traps. My father made me fill them all in. Had a 5-gal container filled with 50 cal. brass casings and a dud grenade in my room. Naturally, I made incendiaries and IEDs from my chemistry kit. Spent many years, sun up to sundown, rain, snow, and heat, in the woods on maneuvers with my friends assaulting enemy emplacements. We kept the Russkies out of our neighborhood.
Currently in 2023 the U.S.Navy has not been able to recruit the 7,000 people they need this year. How many servicemen and women have died due to the Covid bio-weapon? Recruitment is down in all branches of the military service. When there are no other jobs young people join the military, not to fight, but in the belief they will learn a useful skill and earn the GI Bill, last time i looked many positions within various governments - local, state, federal give preference to veterans. when they hire. No one goes in the military thinking they will go to war.....Now the government is at war on their own military using a countermeasure called a bio-weapon to supposedly vaccine them against Covid....Per the Epoch Times 9/22/23 edition U.S. Marine Corps issues STAND DOWN ORDER for ALL PILOTS after an F-35 stealth fighter jet went missing in South Carolina after a "mishap" forced a pilot to eject on September 17.The military branch said the order was issued due to three recent mishaps involving Marine Corps aircraft. This means no units will be allowed to fly until the order is lifted. Why? Not plane issues more like pilot issues due to side effects from vaccines...Search and you will find many pilots flying for airlines are vax injured and dying during flights or so severely injured they will never fly again.......So those robotic planes and ships needed for warfare are probably being manufactured right now remember we use drones to kill already....Vaccines kill or maim the humans making them unfit for service so then robots or cyborgs will fight the wars but the fat cats will not stop exploiting mankind in various countries to take their sovereign resources. War is a given as long as we have psychopaths running the world.......Read and weep,,,,,,Hell is life on earth.
This is an incomplete thought: "your government does not have a right to rob you of your health and wealth..."
Actually, they do have this right as it's the nature of governments - it's an obligation - and we either comply and let them or resist and don't comply, regardless of the cost or outcomes of that.
If enough comply then that is how it is. Should more decide to not do so, then things are different.
Rights only exist when the responsibility of securing them are preformed. The government secures its power, its rights, every day.
Sep 24, 2023·edited Sep 24, 2023Liked by Spartacus
War can not be our only hope for peace. Sounds Orwellian doesn't it. war is peace etc...
Mr. Trudeau canadian PM has committed 650million approx. to the Ukraine effort. I wonder how many lives that will take, how much cannon fodder will 650m will buy. On both sides Russian and Ukrainian.
How many yachts will that buy for our side. How many Harvard tuition's will that dividend pay.
Most importantly how many political contributions will that finance.
Of course to our side its only money,
to the other side its only lives.
As mentioned earlier its not the lives of the elites children, the royalties children its the lives of the common mans/womans children.
War never was the only hope for peace, it never was the will of of those that are sent to die.
IVERMECTIN/HYDROXY work Who knew When did they know Who suppressed it.
Spart, we’re YOU vaccinated? Only slaves submitted to the Clot Shot. 415-352-9317. As a US NAVY vet, 1960-66. with a girlfriend who lived in Germany, she was age 8, she witnessed the Red army liberation of Germany & saw exactly NO rapes of her 4 sisters, ages 18, 16, 14, 12, or neighbors, so I believe her & her sisters, Eye witnesses, still alive. Whom I have known for 30 years. Pls call.
As the mother of an only begotten and beloved son, I remember, as does he, my anti-war teachings. (Among other teachings.)
As one of 4 (damaged) offspring of an Italian Partigiano and his victim wife who still suffers PTS from the terrible war which ravaged cities and communities in northern Italy and elsewhere:
I told my son (kidding not kidding kiddo) that if he ever decided to join the military, after everything I've told him about war, and what it's "good for", he would never make it through basic training.
I'd shoot him in the foot, making him unfit for service.
Go ahead and lambaste me for having been a terrible mother. 🤣
Hey Spartacus, another exquisitely-articulated vituperation! The subjects of this Spartacast are central to all that I despise about the world, or at least this consumerist socio-economic polity by which the old and new money aristocracy has had us in indentured servitude, and the likes of which we all must morally and philosophically reject.
This is almost certainly a nit-pick, but it in no way detracts from or counters your arguments, which I comprehensively agree with. It's this: the Roman military campaigns after the Marian reforms were not quite so simple to dismiss as efforts to winnow the excess testosterone drones from the population. On the contrary, there was a perennial shortage of able-bodied men during the entire history of ancient Rome. Accordingly, it can be argued that the principle reason Gaius Marius reformed the military in the ways he did, i.e. removing the land-ownership qualification of service, was in order to expand the pool of suckers that Rome could draw an army from.
In the old Republic up until the late 2nd Century BCE, the Roman army was a semi-professional militia of citizen soldiers enlisted on a season-by-season basis, with the army being dissolved after every campaign. Restricting the draft only to those who owned land was, among other reasons, to ensure loyalty and also so that soldiers were motivated by the sense that they were defending their own property, if not the defense of Rome. But as Rome's political and military sphere expanded, or as the optimates' - the senatorial elite's - greed grew, and as Rome picked more fights or found itself trying to hang onto more conquered lands, all which provoked an invasion of the Cimbri and Teutons, there was an increasing need for soldiers. As a consequence Marius began enlisting citizens who were not owners of land, the so-called proletaria. As a reward for their service, which usually lasted 16 years (miles emeritus), enlisted men could receive a land allocation.
This removed one of the primary prior limitations on the draft, it expanded the male population from which Marius was able to draw soldiers from, but it had an ultimately catastrophic unintended consequence of encouraging military careerism and the metastasis of rapacity for plunder among the soldiers who, as time passed were increasingly comprised of the proletaria, and finally exclusively so (of course, the optimates supplied the officer classes). The soldiers were goaded by ambitious and unscrupulous officers toward more conquest as the means towards more loot, and in a disastrous example of the little people getting one up on their aristocrat overlords, with Rome having mutated into empire and the empire degenerated, the soldiers and not the senators became the king-makers as they chose or deposed their generals depending on their enthusiasm for campaigning, and the emperor was almost exclusively elevated from the generals who most satisfied the war booty-voracity of the soldiers.
Yeah, long story, but the point is that at least in the case of ancient Rome, there were other factors, and among those the loot agenda was, if not the primary then as close as makes no difference. But the playbook and the result was the same: 1. draw them in to military service, 2. ruthlessly cast them into horrific violence, 3. profit.
I'm not anti-military as I think the military has a role to play but being used as a mercenary force for large corporations is NOT the role. Don't waste your breath talking to me about promoting democracy, human rights, protecting "American interests" and other felgergarb. The last one is a complete joke as almost anything can be made out as an "American interest".
Sadly we've known the solution for a long time. Smedly Butler was right. Let the people in the armed forces vote to go to war or not. If you are really attacking America you are toast because they'd vote in a heartbeat to fight. If you tried to manipulate them into it you'd be in danger of losing your own life.
That or have disputes settled with a great old American tradition ... DUELLING!!! Hey it would be entertaining.
One of the best decisions I ever made was joining ROTC in high school. Made me realize before it was too late that I wanted nothing to do with a top down tyranny and as such never enlisted like I had planned to.
Sep 27, 2023·edited Sep 27, 2023Liked by Spartacus
Yes I've seen Collateral Murder, which I think was Wikileaks' debut onto the world stage as a whistleblowing media clearing house.
To this day I argue over Julian Assange's status as a tortured captive. Even fellow Australians maintain their CIA-Mockingturd appropriated criticism of his actions: "He's a traitor! He's a spy!" or the silliest of all "He's a rapist!" Funny how that one in particular is resurging as the system's slander of choice.
I show them Collateral Murder, they forget immediately.
You wrote this so clearly and eloquently, your thought process is abundantly clear and the logic within resonates with me. I've felt much this way too, but could probably never string my words together as perfectly as you have. I'm forwarding this article to a few friends...
I might sound harsh on our servicemen, here, but I don't have anything against people who served. My quarrel is mostly with the people calling the shots. I just don't think they deserve that kind of loyalty.
I take issue with the whole normalization of America having a martial society with imperial ambitions. The Founding Fathers were, in large part, isolationists who didn't want American lives and treasure to be wasted on becoming an empire. Now, our leaders take their marching orders from Chatham House and the BIS and predictably spend American lives on armed conflicts, enforcing currency hegemony.
I wrote a few days ago on another substack - if the high-ups want to fight a war, they go first, just like in old times. Many kings and princes died in battle. Only in the last few 100 years the high heads sit safely somewhere in a castle or a bunker. So presidents, kings, their children, and all those that want war, including the ceo of the weapon industries, all go to war first. And when some others want to go, go ahead! Then we and our children can live on peacefully. Is there anyone who really wants to go fighting? I know a few people who are in coast guard, they seem to be different because they are defense. But all those that go overseas to fight a war to saveguard the rich people's richess, no way!
"I referred to soldiers as people who get bitten with a patriotism bug and go overseas to murder people they don’t know."
Nothing wrong with saying that - I'd say you were being nice. Soldiers are well-programmed Bots who kill people because a politician working for the Deep State Elite told them to. They stupidly believe they have to obey authority and follow orders - no they don't. The Nuremberg defense does not absolve them from punishment. They are murderers and should be electrocuted. Can I say that, or is it not politically correct?
I come from a family of officers going back to the Norman Conquest who led men into battle and killed thousands. My father is a mass murderer; a combat infantry Colonel with a silver star and two bronze stars. According to the Concord historians, an ancestor's actions precipitated the American Revolution. Got another ancestor who was army Chief of Staff and a Fort named after another. Was going to lie about my age to get into Vietnam but saw through the programming and joined the anti-war movement.
I would have been a good soldier. Heck, I was basically in boot camp from age 1 to 18 and read Army field manuals and had every imaginable toy gun, including a 50 cal. on a tripod before age 8. Made hundreds of model tanks, ships, and aircraft authentically detailed. I booby-trapped the backyard from a Special Forces boobytrap manual with cunningly camouflaged pits and artfully placed leg traps. My father made me fill them all in. Had a 5-gal container filled with 50 cal. brass casings and a dud grenade in my room. Naturally, I made incendiaries and IEDs from my chemistry kit. Spent many years, sun up to sundown, rain, snow, and heat, in the woods on maneuvers with my friends assaulting enemy emplacements. We kept the Russkies out of our neighborhood.
Currently in 2023 the U.S.Navy has not been able to recruit the 7,000 people they need this year. How many servicemen and women have died due to the Covid bio-weapon? Recruitment is down in all branches of the military service. When there are no other jobs young people join the military, not to fight, but in the belief they will learn a useful skill and earn the GI Bill, last time i looked many positions within various governments - local, state, federal give preference to veterans. when they hire. No one goes in the military thinking they will go to war.....Now the government is at war on their own military using a countermeasure called a bio-weapon to supposedly vaccine them against Covid....Per the Epoch Times 9/22/23 edition U.S. Marine Corps issues STAND DOWN ORDER for ALL PILOTS after an F-35 stealth fighter jet went missing in South Carolina after a "mishap" forced a pilot to eject on September 17.The military branch said the order was issued due to three recent mishaps involving Marine Corps aircraft. This means no units will be allowed to fly until the order is lifted. Why? Not plane issues more like pilot issues due to side effects from vaccines...Search and you will find many pilots flying for airlines are vax injured and dying during flights or so severely injured they will never fly again.......So those robotic planes and ships needed for warfare are probably being manufactured right now remember we use drones to kill already....Vaccines kill or maim the humans making them unfit for service so then robots or cyborgs will fight the wars but the fat cats will not stop exploiting mankind in various countries to take their sovereign resources. War is a given as long as we have psychopaths running the world.......Read and weep,,,,,,Hell is life on earth.
This is an incomplete thought: "your government does not have a right to rob you of your health and wealth..."
Actually, they do have this right as it's the nature of governments - it's an obligation - and we either comply and let them or resist and don't comply, regardless of the cost or outcomes of that.
If enough comply then that is how it is. Should more decide to not do so, then things are different.
Rights only exist when the responsibility of securing them are preformed. The government secures its power, its rights, every day.
Because they are allowed to do so.
War can not be our only hope for peace. Sounds Orwellian doesn't it. war is peace etc...
Mr. Trudeau canadian PM has committed 650million approx. to the Ukraine effort. I wonder how many lives that will take, how much cannon fodder will 650m will buy. On both sides Russian and Ukrainian.
How many yachts will that buy for our side. How many Harvard tuition's will that dividend pay.
Most importantly how many political contributions will that finance.
Of course to our side its only money,
to the other side its only lives.
As mentioned earlier its not the lives of the elites children, the royalties children its the lives of the common mans/womans children.
War never was the only hope for peace, it never was the will of of those that are sent to die.
IVERMECTIN/HYDROXY work Who knew When did they know Who suppressed it.
Shawn 663
Spart, we’re YOU vaccinated? Only slaves submitted to the Clot Shot. 415-352-9317. As a US NAVY vet, 1960-66. with a girlfriend who lived in Germany, she was age 8, she witnessed the Red army liberation of Germany & saw exactly NO rapes of her 4 sisters, ages 18, 16, 14, 12, or neighbors, so I believe her & her sisters, Eye witnesses, still alive. Whom I have known for 30 years. Pls call.
As the mother of an only begotten and beloved son, I remember, as does he, my anti-war teachings. (Among other teachings.)
As one of 4 (damaged) offspring of an Italian Partigiano and his victim wife who still suffers PTS from the terrible war which ravaged cities and communities in northern Italy and elsewhere:
I told my son (kidding not kidding kiddo) that if he ever decided to join the military, after everything I've told him about war, and what it's "good for", he would never make it through basic training.
I'd shoot him in the foot, making him unfit for service.
Go ahead and lambaste me for having been a terrible mother. 🤣
I can take the heat. 😉
Hey Spartacus, another exquisitely-articulated vituperation! The subjects of this Spartacast are central to all that I despise about the world, or at least this consumerist socio-economic polity by which the old and new money aristocracy has had us in indentured servitude, and the likes of which we all must morally and philosophically reject.
This is almost certainly a nit-pick, but it in no way detracts from or counters your arguments, which I comprehensively agree with. It's this: the Roman military campaigns after the Marian reforms were not quite so simple to dismiss as efforts to winnow the excess testosterone drones from the population. On the contrary, there was a perennial shortage of able-bodied men during the entire history of ancient Rome. Accordingly, it can be argued that the principle reason Gaius Marius reformed the military in the ways he did, i.e. removing the land-ownership qualification of service, was in order to expand the pool of suckers that Rome could draw an army from.
In the old Republic up until the late 2nd Century BCE, the Roman army was a semi-professional militia of citizen soldiers enlisted on a season-by-season basis, with the army being dissolved after every campaign. Restricting the draft only to those who owned land was, among other reasons, to ensure loyalty and also so that soldiers were motivated by the sense that they were defending their own property, if not the defense of Rome. But as Rome's political and military sphere expanded, or as the optimates' - the senatorial elite's - greed grew, and as Rome picked more fights or found itself trying to hang onto more conquered lands, all which provoked an invasion of the Cimbri and Teutons, there was an increasing need for soldiers. As a consequence Marius began enlisting citizens who were not owners of land, the so-called proletaria. As a reward for their service, which usually lasted 16 years (miles emeritus), enlisted men could receive a land allocation.
This removed one of the primary prior limitations on the draft, it expanded the male population from which Marius was able to draw soldiers from, but it had an ultimately catastrophic unintended consequence of encouraging military careerism and the metastasis of rapacity for plunder among the soldiers who, as time passed were increasingly comprised of the proletaria, and finally exclusively so (of course, the optimates supplied the officer classes). The soldiers were goaded by ambitious and unscrupulous officers toward more conquest as the means towards more loot, and in a disastrous example of the little people getting one up on their aristocrat overlords, with Rome having mutated into empire and the empire degenerated, the soldiers and not the senators became the king-makers as they chose or deposed their generals depending on their enthusiasm for campaigning, and the emperor was almost exclusively elevated from the generals who most satisfied the war booty-voracity of the soldiers.
Yeah, long story, but the point is that at least in the case of ancient Rome, there were other factors, and among those the loot agenda was, if not the primary then as close as makes no difference. But the playbook and the result was the same: 1. draw them in to military service, 2. ruthlessly cast them into horrific violence, 3. profit.
Very well said.
Thanks.
Can’t add much to this to be honest. Just hope the message penetrates
I'm not anti-military as I think the military has a role to play but being used as a mercenary force for large corporations is NOT the role. Don't waste your breath talking to me about promoting democracy, human rights, protecting "American interests" and other felgergarb. The last one is a complete joke as almost anything can be made out as an "American interest".
Sadly we've known the solution for a long time. Smedly Butler was right. Let the people in the armed forces vote to go to war or not. If you are really attacking America you are toast because they'd vote in a heartbeat to fight. If you tried to manipulate them into it you'd be in danger of losing your own life.
That or have disputes settled with a great old American tradition ... DUELLING!!! Hey it would be entertaining.
Amen. Stay home, defend the perimeter. Let the they/thems go "over there" and fight for their beloved globalists.
One of the best decisions I ever made was joining ROTC in high school. Made me realize before it was too late that I wanted nothing to do with a top down tyranny and as such never enlisted like I had planned to.
Yes.
War is hell.
Your description and your reasoning for deploring it are sound.
I don't want to sound trite, however, I spent 26 years in the military.
Let me assure you that nobody deplores war more than the soldier on the ground.
Thousands of volumes have been penned by minds greater than yours or mine on the subject.
You'd think that with all of this knowledge, someone would have been able to find a way to stop it.
You seem quite upset with the system. It all does seem like a clown world to be sure.
We should "fight tooth and nail!". Taken to its inevitable end. What do you think that implies?
Yes I've seen Collateral Murder, which I think was Wikileaks' debut onto the world stage as a whistleblowing media clearing house.
To this day I argue over Julian Assange's status as a tortured captive. Even fellow Australians maintain their CIA-Mockingturd appropriated criticism of his actions: "He's a traitor! He's a spy!" or the silliest of all "He's a rapist!" Funny how that one in particular is resurging as the system's slander of choice.
I show them Collateral Murder, they forget immediately.
Thanks for the latest Spartacast.
You wrote this so clearly and eloquently, your thought process is abundantly clear and the logic within resonates with me. I've felt much this way too, but could probably never string my words together as perfectly as you have. I'm forwarding this article to a few friends...