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As I recall, Brussels has forbidden 5G towers.

Maybe the people in parts of Switzerland and in Brussels know what's up because they are in on it.

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Precisely. The NWO don't want to defecate in their own nest, so to speak.

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Signal from the towers would be a lot harder to avoid than the vax. You got some extra $$, a personal doctor, or private jet and a vax mandate won't mean much to you.

I do agree, your average European has been a primary target. I also think the head of the snake is also likely there somewhere...

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I have a friend in Zurich. He said they have 5G. It is not a good friend & I do not trust him 100% but it is the closest I got to asking someone "on the ground"

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Seems from this that the Swiss already have 100% coverage. But is it activated?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1246279/700mhz-5g-coverage-switzerland/

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Thanks for this information about Brussels, and thanks Spartacus for another well-researched and even handed-treatment of the available information.

There is a lot of room to manipulate the biological effects of 5G radio-frequencies. These wavelengths are short enough to be the same size as functional parts of human cellsand cell membranes, which means they dump their energy into these tiny things when they contact them in bodies.

They don't penetrate very far into bodies, because they are dumping energy into the cells and subcellular working-parts.

If this was beamed at people at high-power it would hurt, feel like an intense sunburn. You would get away from it quickly. The US military has developed a non-lethal crowd-dispersal weapon that does exactly this.

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Correct. This is how the Raytheon ADS works. They beam something like 90 to 100 GHz RF at people, IIRC, it stops in the skin and sets off pain receptors. They kept running into this issue where metal objects worn in or on the body (piercings, glasses, buttons, etc.) would keep producing hotspots, however.

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Sonic weapons, microwave energy weapons, or directed energy weapons were deployed by Police against protesters in Canberra, ACT, in Feb. 2022.

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I heard about that. I also heard people sustained nasty burns. Disgusting.

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Somewhat later, what did you think about the burning patterns in Lahaina, Maui?

DEW of some sort, not a very natural fire and damage pattern?

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We don't even need DEWs for this. The water being shut off, people being penned inside and not allowed to evacuate, journalists not being allowed inside... everything else that happened was suspicious enough.

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Yes, apparently that was one of the side effects.

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Citation please? Links in comments below don't seem to support this.

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Sorry Shy Boy.

When I read things I only do so for my own clarification, I don't try to argue anything with anyone, so I never keep information to prove anything.

I'll have a hunt in my sent emails as I think that I did send the link to this to the only person I know not from online who would be slightly interested.

Even they think that the 5G worry is misplaced. I don't.

As I recall, there's some sort of world map that shows that Brussels doesn't have the kill towers.

Some people don't want bad news. If I talked about this to people whom I know then I might as well be muzzled just as they might as well wear earplugs.

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Look up CERN.

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This might be worth reading... Gives me the creeps. Remember the toilet paper respond... Free will

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220324006067/en/

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5g towers went up everywhere during lockdown.. I find that a huge red flag.

Secondly the tests conducted in order to qualify for licence was run for a very short time at a low amplitude.. not at the maximum 60 gigahertz it is capable of.. one test run at 30 gigahertz saw birds drop out of the sky.

We are naturally magnetic creatures due to being on a planet surrounded by magnetic forces.. 7.8 htz... when we stand on Earth barefooted or take a dip in the sea.. we discharge all the positive ions because in health .. we should be negatively charged.. who is willing to bet that 5G messes up our natural balance of magnetism and replaces it with a disruptive force?

I use a PEMF device.. it has the earth frequencies set in to it.. do you not suppose these controlling elites already know the likely outcome of 5g on the masses.. in order to get a faster download we are willing to destroy our health.. that’s beyond stupid.

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I had forgotten about PEMF devices which I researched and encountered years ago. Thanks for the reminder. I would add about 5G that current scientific expertise is quite low when assessing the impact upon the whole human. We are in a primitive stage of regarding the body from a purely mechanistic viewpoint. Once the impact of all strata, including the spiritual which is also electro-magnetic and beyond, can be measured, integrated, and understood, healing will become an art as well as a science. Right now, the health industry is controlled by individuals who have no interest in allowing such broad spectrum research because they financially benefit enormously by narrowly funding research to support their own aims and desires...which is the propagation of degenerative health.

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They already know about the human body... being a negatively charged creature means optimal health... which means if you make people positively charged .. they suffer ill health...we are being played by psychopaths.

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Agreed. The psychos definitely do know that all life depends on its own delicate electro-magnetics. They also depend on the general public being unaware.

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Correct part of my last... the top output is actually 3,000 hertz ... that’s a lot of hurts.(pun intended)

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sorry for my ignorance, but what do you mean by likely outcome of 5G on masses? would you say is better to have a 4G mobile phone? or is still the same? thanks!

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5G towers went up during the lockdown on every city block along historic riverfront park in Harrisburg, PA.

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Same in many UK cities.

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Not by accident but by design… believe we only went into lockdown for 5g.

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ditto California Elementary schools & up

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👍👏👏👏 Martin Pall's work has been excellent in the EMF. As has many others as Frances Leader has pointed out many times before. I personally like Garieve's pioneering work and Beverly Rubik's work.

Taking the calcium ion channels further- in relation to the effects of SARS Cov2 on the elderly originally, it's assumed that this is because the immune system is thought to get worn out during the aging process (along with organs and additional comorbities), making them succeptible. Which, given that this "degenerative aging process" is the general assumption that both allopathic and alternative medicine have been operating under for decades (regardless of evidence to the contrary and research showing otherwise), hence both systems, advise the elderly to heavily dose calcium tablets to prevent bone deminerisation, which by the way, is far more impacted by vitamin D3 and copper (iron recycling), and their interactions with selenium and iodine, than with calcium levels....😐🤔🤔😐😐🤦‍♀️

Side note, Musk's Starlink programme is accelerating, with the most satalites launched so far and on target to have a "satalites grid" interwoven across the entire globe, by 2030. Now that all the "conspiracy theories" have essentially been confirmed, can we actually get on with shutting this $#!@ down before 10G gets released to the public!!!???? Because that affects a whole lot more than ion channels.😐😐😑

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I have yet to see a study on the biological effects of EM energy that is worth the paper it is written on. The studies always use excessively high field strengths. Spartacus shows the penetration depth attenuation vs. frequency chart. The studies use cell cultures in Petri dishes directly under an antenna with unrealistic transmit power. The entire field of study can be filed under BAD SCIENCE.

5G uses the same frequency bands as 4G and 3G and some of 2G. 5G also can use much higher frequency bands, but these are not widely used because of the problems with propagation distance. For example, these higher frequencies may be useful in a football stadium but are not very good for any other environment. As the penetration depth chart shows, these higher frequencies can't penetrate the skin more than 0.5mm. 5G also uses the same frequencies as WiFi, Bluetooth and cordless phones (not much used any longer). If 5G poses a health risk, these other communication standards also do. People walk around all day with Bluetooth earbuds in their ears, transmitting 2.4GHz microwave energy (the exact frequency used by microwave ovens) directly into their brains. But we must fear 5G? 5G uses smaller cell sizes, so there will be more antennas, but they will broadcast with much lower transmit power, which is good. The phased-array beam steering is not something to fear. It is something to be thankful for if you want less exposure to EM energy. By beam steering, you only get exposed to EM energy from the base station when it needs to talk to your device, not when transmitting to other devices located away from you.

Every person is bathed in a sea of EM energy. Take a look at this Frequency Allocation Chart for the US.

https://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/2003-allochrt.pdf

5G is but one tiny sliver on the chart. Someone needs to explain why all of the other sources of EM energy we are exposed to are not a problem. I can't prove that EM energy is harmless, but most of the world is bathed in it 24/7, and this has been going on for decades without correlation to any particular diseases. Our bodies operate on electric current but at very low frequencies. The electricity in our homes is much closer in frequency to what the body uses. Whenever current flows in a wire, an EM field is radiated. The higher the current, the stronger the EM field. As our ovens, clothes dryers, hair dryers and air conditioners run, we are exposed to very strong EM fields. Every electronic device utilizes a switching power supply to convert the AC power to lower voltage DC. These power supplies emit a tremendous amount of EM energy. An automobile is also an environment that exposes you to strong EM fields, from the electronic ignition to the radars that are built into most modern cars. Every car with backup sensors and collision sensors utilizes radar at 77GHz. A driver is exposed to this EM energy from their vehicle and every car driving near them.

Spartacus did a better job than most on this subject, but it still does the disservice of propagating the unsupportable claims about 5G harming people. The linkage between 5G and COVID is even more egregious. The spike protein in the virus and the injections is shown to have over 40 mechanisms of injury, using quality science. We now know that a murderous standard of care likely killed most people labeled as being killed by COVID: no early treatment with safe drug protocols, the use of Remdesivir (destroying organs) and forced ventilation. Those following the quality research know about the tremendous injury and death associated with the Spike Protein Injections. It is speculated that many diseases and deaths will follow over time due to the effects of the Spike Protein in the body. With this very large and obvious target, why are people focusing on the fantasy of "self-assembling nanobots" and 5G? If we focus our energy on phantom threats, then real threats proceed unmolested.

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Correct. The strength of the fields put out by most wireless communication equipment is far too low for us to see a COVID-19-like effect, and the technical reason for the adoption of beamforming is the improvement of signal strength and the reduction of unwanted interference. If you really wanted to harm someone with beamforming, you'd need a control program on the base stations that went well outside their normal operational parameters, intentionally concentrating powerful fields on a person's body rather than their handset, and no radiotelephony engineer in their right mind would code such a thing, so it would have to be surreptitiously backdoored.

And, of course, most of the higher frequency RF has a very hard time getting through human skin. We have a lot of water molecules in us, so the idea of people being injured by 10+ GHz radiation is kind of specious just from a physics perspective.

That said, the IoB people do seem to be trying to get T-waves into people's bodies using implanted nano-relays, and they've done extensive path loss calculations in human tissue, to that end:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11277-021-08171-2

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350453513_Fat-IBC_A_New_Paradigm_for_Intra-body_Communication

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9145564

Even in their calculations, the transmission distance is hilariously poor. You need relays spaced in the body every few millimeters to keep propagating the THz radiation. Where does the power come from? How is the signal multiplexed and decoded? Honestly, some of this in-body wireless nanotech research strikes me as a bit over-optimistic about the underlying engineering challenges.

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Thanks for your reply, Spartacus. I agree with all you said. I'm wondering if you have an engineering background. I have 4 decades of designing, manufacturing and bringing advanced ICs and electronic systems to market. I know research gets done on IoB, but if find the concepts to be absurd and impractical. The laws of physics just won't allow the implementation (transmission distance, spectral absorption, antenna physics, power sources, etc.) and humans are not very tolerant of being cut open to insert, repair and upgrade electronic implants. I think IoB is a fever dream, as is the concept of "Transhumanism." It will never happen.

I respond to articles about the 5G subject because I believe people are harming themselves with these particular fears. I can't prove 5G is harmless, but I can show that if 5G can be harmful, then so can 4G, WiFi, Bluetooth and so many other standards. Singling out 5G as unique is technically and scientifically not supportable. There is so much hype around 5G from a marketing perspective. I find this hype to be mostly undeserved. For most people, their wireless experience did not change when 5G was turned on. It provides benefits to the operators, but I still think most of the use cases for the promised bandwidth have not manifested and will never manifest. Technology becomes a pointless arms race in many ways. Lots of weapons but no war to use them in.

Many who claim 5G is dangerous say it is the higher frequency EM energy that is the danger. I try to provide perspective to reduce their fears. Do they not know their own bodies emit strong EM energy that is 10,000 times higher frequency? The human body emits frequencies centered at 32 TeraHertz. We are all EM energy transmitters.

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Absolutely correct. If people should be concerned about health effects from 5G, then they should be concerned about health effects from literally every radio source. It's not really specific to 5G at all. Non-ionizing EMF is not the same as ionizing radiation. It can't break DNA strands directly like gamma rays or X-rays can. RF can excite water molecules in the body and cause heating, and, like Martin Pall, some say that it can change cell membrane permeability, which is a possible source of oxidative stress. Oxidative stress, in turn, can cause DNA damage, but really, much of this is honestly speculative and, like you said, based on unrealistic experiments. It's an area that needs further study.

DARPA's nanotransducer-based BCI tech is spooky at first glance, but the underlying engineering is a head-scratcher. Nanotransducers, far from being nanomachines, are tiny nanoparticles that absorb wireless energy and convert it into heat, opening thermosensitive ion channels, altering membrane permeability and forcing neurons to spike, in theory. The precision of such a device and its ability to direct energy to specific neurons or clusters of neurons would be entirely dependent on the source. All the nanotransducers do is increase the sensitivity of the tissue to externally supplied energy, which would have to be collimated into very tight, precise beams and localized in a specific volume of brain tissue to avoid unwanted stimulation of adjacent neurons. At a distance of a hundred yards, with a 5G base station, using far-field RF, this is basically impossible. The smallest target you can hit is someone's entire head. Therefore, precision stimulation of specific brain regions would have to result from the localization of the nanoparticles in those specific tissues. That's tricky in itself. It's one thing to get nanoparticles across the blood-brain barrier and into the brain. It's another thing entirely to get them across the BBB and into specific parts of the brain, to the exclusion of all others. With 5G base stations, the best you could do - if you could, for instance, localize nanotransducers in the nucleus accumbens and energize them with far-field RF - is positive reinforcement of behaviors by producing a sensation of euphoria, for example. Without using a helmet as the energy source, the control could not possibly be more granular than that. Or could it?

Ian Akyildiz and Josep Jornet's papers on nano-relays indicate that they're capable of producing very small subwavelength plasmonic nanoantennas in the THz range that make use of surface plasmon polaritons. Some of these aren't even RF based. They're optical, and they operate, for instance, in the infrared range. This isn't really a limitation for the nanotransducers, however; some proposed neuromodulation nanotransducers absorb IR light. It may be that they're intending to make use of a bio-hybrid optronic paradigm instead of an electronic one. Ehud Gazit's papers indicate that they're investigating the use of proteins, peptides, and amyloids as organic waveguides, both for radio and optical photons. With sufficient relays and electronics incorporated into the body, it's conceivable that the "source" for nanotransducers might, one day, be implanted and self-sufficient. Of course, that raises questions of its own, like where you get the wattage to run all of it without batteries. I've seen some proposals that involve actually harnessing ATP inside the body, making direct use of human chemical energy to produce electricity.

When we get into the realm of synthetic biology and the hybridization of tissue and electronics at the molecular scale, making use of nanoscale effects, the possibilities are kind of mind-boggling. There's this massive, unexplored blank space there, and these researchers are just skimming the surface. The part that creeps me the hell out about it is that regulators are not prepared. They have absolutely no idea about any of this. It is so niche and obscure, it has practically escaped their notice. This isn't even mind control technology. It's like complete SCADA monitoring and control for cells and subcellular components. If these IoB people have their way, you'll be able to silence specific genes in someone's body from a hundred miles away at the touch of a button. Not even an exaggeration. They've bragged about doing exactly this.

https://www.futurity.org/optogenomics-implants-fgfr1-gene-2107212/

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DARPA and the DoD seem to be full of technological fever dreams. What keeps me from panicking is the simple laws of physics we must obey when designing products to work in the real world and not just in a controlled lab experiment. Antennas must be sized to 1/4 the wavelength of the signal being transmitted or received. So if WiFi, Bluetooth or 5G (in the low GHz range) is the communication protocol, an antenna must be several centimeters in length. That is not going to be injected into a body - it must be surgically implanted. If they can make you have a surgery, you are already controlled! Millimeter wave signaling would allow for much smaller antennas, but those frequencies are absorbed by water molecules in the body - so communicating into and out of the body is not going to happen. Any of those protocols require rather large semiconductor processors, and these processors require very stable power supplies, with regulators. That won't happen by harnessing ATP (which I doubt can be done anyway). These circuits require crystal oscillators which are not micro-sized. They require analog components to handle the front ends in the receivers. I could go on and on. I don't think these high tech fantasies will ever be practical, despite the twisted, delusional minds of people like Yuval Noah Harari.

I don't know why there is such a focus on developing these impossible concepts. We see the kind of control over people that can be achieved with psyops. The pandemic proved how easy it is to convince 75% of the world's population to willingly step into medical and digital prisons. No nanotechnology or 5G required.

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It looks like they're interested in using T-waves for this for precisely the reason you stated, but their effective penetration depth in the human body is very, very shallow. Less than millimeter waves. The way they want to get around this is by peppering the whole body with nano-relays that pass the signal around. Here's a paper by Josep Jornet on the topic:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8052555

This paper is available in its entirety on, well, a certain site out there that I will not name, where you can put in DOIs and bypass the paywall. If you're in-the-know, then you know exactly the place I'm talking about. Pop the DOI of 10.1109/TNB.2017.2757906 in there, and there you go.

To quote the paper:

"By means of communication, nanosensors will be able to

autonomously transmit their sensing information to a common

sink, be controlled from a command center, or coordinate

joint actions when needed [5]. The state of the art of nanoelectronics and nano-photonics points to the Terahertz (THz)

band (0.1-10 THz) and the optical frequency bands (infrared,

30-400 THz, and visible, 400-750 THz) as the frequency range

for communication among nano-biosensors. Among others,

plasmonic nano-lasers with sub-micrometric footprint [6], THz

signal sources [7], plasmonic nano-antennas for optical [8]

and THz frequencies [9], and single-photon detectors with

unrivaled sensitivity [10] have already been developed.

The study of THz propagation within the human body is still

at its infancy though most nano-biosensing applications rely on

the use of light. A genuine model that accounts for the intrabody signal degradation has been recently presented in [11].

However, as the propagation of THz band waves inside the

human body is drastically impacted by the absorption of liquid

water molecules [12], Guo et al. [13] advocated the use of the

optical window for intra-body wireless communication among

nanosensors with plasmonic nano-antennas. The reason behind

this is the minimal absorption from liquid water molecules in

the so called optical window, roughly between 400 THz and

750 THz [14]. In addition, optical frequencies have already

been used in many in-vivo applications [15]."

They're very, very serious about doing the path loss calculations for THz in the body. I don't know of any GSM base stations that put out T-waves, so, technically, there would either have to be some kind of implanted transceiver in the millimeter-wave range which steps the frequency up for the nano-relays, or this would have to be something they plan to implement with 6G or later hardware.

You are right, though. This IoB stuff does give off the impression of being like some sort of pie-in-the-sky thing being pushed by a small cadre of researchers groping for grant money, but given how determined they seem to make this stuff real, I'm not taking any chances. I want more eyes on this tech.

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the nano particulate components are injected,

https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2014/sm/c3sm52405a

Dr. Ana

/ Nixon observed self assembling structures outside body when the injectable solution is exposed to EMF radiation. She is open minded to looking for answers re: the stringy clots and Rouleaux in her vaxxed & more recently unvaxxed patients’ blood.

https://anamihalceamdphd.substack.com/

WebMD re: nano materials in hydrogel

https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/knee-pain/news/20230523/how-hydrogels-will-change-health-care

& 5G now in schools

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-dangers-of-5g-to-childrens-health/

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The "self-assembling structures" reported by a few were shown to be salts. Salt crystals grow - but it is novel language to call them "self-assembling." It's not an accurate depiction and leaves uninformed people with incorrect impressions about what is happening. Little robots are not assembling themselves in your body. That is unfortunate science fantasy and a delusion.

Analysis of the clot formation has led to credible proposals based on real chemistry that the clot formations are from excess amyloid caused by the spike protein the injections induce one's cells to make. No "EMF radiation" required.

If someone says "EMF caused something" - it is helpful to know what frequencies and power levels. Electromagnetic radiation from non-ionizing sources exists from DC to UV light - that is 16 orders of magnitude of frequency. Beware claims made that don't specify the frequency and power level. Beware people who use non-scientific terms like "electro-smog." Real science uses real scientific terms.

Your reply above exemplifies a typical response from someone who fears something but doesn't understand it. You throw out links to 4 articles that say controversial words you fear (hydrogel, self-assembly, nanostructures, etc.), but you don't understand what you are reading. Your first link describes building up layers of hydrogel under the control of electrical signals. This is done in a lab, with hydrogels in a dish and lab equipment applying the right voltages/currents directly to the medium. That is a universe of difference from what people fear, which is that something can be injected in their body and then distant radio waves can be used to get the gel to do something useful or harmful.

As for the last link, I like RFKJr and CHD. They do good work in some areas, but on 5G they are in the weeds. The fact that it is CHD making the claims doesn't change the facts. There is nothing new about 5G that deserves all of this attention. If their concerns are valid, then the same concerns exist with 4G, 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and many other standards.

Beware Stew Peters and the crowd he promotes. What you get there is what you display here. Half truths, conflations, misunderstandings and wild extrapolations not based on science.

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The BCI stuff is not exceptional in that way. Most DARPA "basic research" is speculative pie-in-the-sky BS created by silver-tongued grifters with a keen sense of trends and fads within DoD leadership. The "tech council" that funds these proposals is a big mesh of interlocking revolving doors, with members jockeying to divert funds to their favorite research areas and companies. They know full well that they're throwing spaghetti at the wall. Occasionally, something sticks. It's a lot of waste, but compared to other parts of the "defense" budget it's not even in the same ballpark.

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Perfectly said!

Have we talked about DARPA before on another thread?

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I dunno, maybe. I've seen the belly of that beast myself. It's ugly, but not as scary as some other stuff your tax dollars get spent on.

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Some anecdotes:

Five decades ago I went to sea on a Canadian weathership. These were actually defence pickets at the time of the DEW line in northern Canada. Apparently the radar was inadvertently? turned on at dockside and burned the paint off cars parked alongside. Obviously a much higher power, but a much shorter exposure. We weren't allowed on deck while the radar was in use.

At a cancer lecture in 1976 or -77 they told us the story of the CP Air pilots' infertility problems. Apparently they were getting too much testicular irradiation from the radars in the noses of the DC-8's.

Twenty years later there were news reports of increasing testicular cancer among highway patrol policemen in the US. Apparently they held the portable radar guns in standby on their laps until the speeders approached.

These stories have a common feature- the hazards were not detected until long after the equipment had been approved and put into service. At least in the 20th century there were organisations willing and able to look for adverse effects.

The current "safety" literature I have found uses thermal criteria to define hazard.

You don't stand close to your microwave or induction stovetop while they are heating , do you?

By the time the damage from the 3G and 4G radiation emerges from the background noise we will be onto 6 or 7 G's and nobody will be able to determine the source of harm. Time is a very challenging variable to control.

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I find it appalling to read your comment. Phantom threats?? Are you attempting to control the opposition here or what?

It is abundantly clear that you prefer the prescribed official narratives and so it is pointless offering you evidence of how wrong you are. However, others may read your comment and be swayed away from researching the subject so I recommend that they disregard your dismissals and take the time to consider the evidence I have unearthed in over 10 years of research.

https://francesleader.substack.com/p/all-my-substack-articles-on-emfc19

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Frances, I'm sorry that you have taken such offense to my comments. I don't know why you would consider me sharing my 4 decades of experience working with this technology to be appalling. Why are you so invested in believing 5G has this magical power. It doesn't have that power. So yes, 5G is a phantom threat. It's not because it is an official narrative, it is because there is no quality research supporting the claims you and other make. We also have decades of experience with billions of people and there are no diseases correlated to exposure to the levels of EM energy we are routinely exposed to. If there are subtle effects that negatively affect health, then the problem is far worse than 5G, because 5G is only a small fraction of the EM energy we are exposed to.

I don't have the power or desire to control your determination to be afraid, Frances. But I think it is sad that people waste their energy on unsupportable fears. We are facing a number of things that are worthy of fear. 5G is not one of them.

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Since he was so adamant that I was "censoring the 5G threat", I figured I'd throw Frances a bone and admit that there may be something to it, at least as far as membrane permeability goes (honestly, airborne pollution can have the same exact effect, as far as calcium signaling and stress pathways go; exposure to smog in a city can theoretically make COVID-19 worse), but it seems to have had the opposite effect. Oh well. Can't please everyone, I guess.

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Keep your "may be something to it" bone. I do not require your approval.

Please note that I am female for future reference.

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My apologies. I didn't realize. I hardly ever see the spelling Frances and I assumed it was just a variant spelling of the name Francis.

Arguing with the anti-germ-theory folks kind of gets exhausting for me. I did a lot of work trying to decipher the pathology of SARS-CoV-2. Hundreds of hours poring over data and findings. It's kind of difficult for me to accept that all that was for nothing.

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I suspect the work was not for nothing. There is value to waking up to the depth and breadth of corruption, regulatory capture, lies, deceptions, and malicious/murderous plans our governments and corporations have for us.

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Your narrative is loaded with disinformation. You should be ashamed.

I can prove that EMFs affect blood in a negative way in less than 2.5 mins. This particular clip is more than 11 years old, long before 5G. So yes, we agree on one thing - "5G is only a small fraction of the EM energy we are exposed to."

https://youtu.be/8ZB7fb9Rqb0

Allow me to assure you that this video is one piece of evidence from many thousands. You may well be technologically experienced but you are no doctor and you are not considering the health impacts of electro-magnetic radiation on all forms of life. There are thousands of studies which have proven that there are significant health effects. To say otherwise is to deceive. I repeat, you should be ashamed.

You can find links to those thousands of studies, articles, videos and discussions in my archive as shared above.

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Frances, your video by Dr. Magda Havas proves two things: 1) Dr Havas doesn't know how to perform a quality scientific experiment and 2) you are easily fooled by videos made by people who do poor quality science. I'm sorry this happened to you.

A quality study would require more than a sample of one. The researcher would need to recruit subjects for long-term testing under controlled conditions. Subjects would need to have the blood tested prior to exposure to EM energy to establish a baseline. This baseline should be done in a Faraday cage to ensure there is absolutely no exposure to any EM energy, except perhaps visible light. Then the subjects would need to be exposed to EM energy of specific frequencies and power levels. There also needs to be a control group.

If quality research existed that showed conclusive harm from real world exposure, we wouldn't be having this conversation. If quality research existed, it wouldn't just be frightened people with no technical understanding sounding the alarm. It would be doctors, researchers and engineers who know the technology well. Instead of seeing me as the enemy, I suggest you see me as delivering good news. For we are all immersed in a sea of EM energy. Our modern world depends on wireless communications, electric and electronic devices. That isn't going to change.

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I gather from your earlier comments (as well as your presence here) that you're a mRNA vaccine sceptic? So, right back at you:

"If quality research existed that showed conclusive harm from real world exposure [to synthetic mRNA], we wouldn't be having this conversation. If quality research existed, it wouldn't just be frightened people with no technical understanding sounding the alarm. It would be doctors, researchers and engineers who know the technology well."

I mean, that would be nice and all. But I don't think it works like that, in general. I've got an Upton Sinclair quote for you:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something

Please note I'm not taking a side here, just trying to encourage intellectual honesty. I don't think this is an either-or situation. It's easy to find highly official (and well-hedged) concerns about health effects of EMF exposure: for example https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/electromagnetic-fields-fact-sheet

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I read a lot of research. I think there is an abundance of quality papers showing tremendous harm from the mRNA injections. Neurotoxicity, Prion-like domains, cytotoxicity, blood clotting, ACE 2 dysregulation, P53/BRCA/TMPRSS dysregulation, CD8+ dysregulation, etc. Repeated injections lead to a switch to IgG4 dominance, leading to spike-protein tolerance. Recent research published by Kevin McKernan showed that over 35% of the nucleic acids in the LNPs are DNA plasmids. These should have been filtered out from the mRNA manufacturing process, but was not. This significantly increases the chances of the Spike-Protein being written into the human genome. The Spike-Protein was developed as a bioweapon. It has over 40 mechanisms of injury identified. There was no dangerous pandemic, as evidenced by the quality research by Ioannidis (Stanford). Most people's mucosal immune system handled the virus just fine. For those who had compromised immunity and the virus progressed to the lungs or blood, there were safe, effective protocols that prevented severe disease. Thousands of doctors implemented those protocols and they lost very few patients. But this was actively suppressed by the CDC/FDA and Hospital Systems. The real damage and danger happens when the spike is injected into the body. The LNPs don't stay local. They travel to all organs, setting up increased chances of severe disease. All cause mortality was not elevated in 2020 in most countries, but since 2021, ACM is up 20-40% globally.

If you read what I said in my first post, I said I can't prove 5G is harmless, but if 5G is harmful then so too are so many other communication standards we have been living with for decades. My objection is to the illogical and irrational fears about 5G. 5G as is currently implemented is no different than 4G, WiFi or Bluetooth, except that 5G should offer lower exposure thanks to smaller cell sizes and beam-steering. If harm exists we don't have quality research showing it. We don't have disease correlated to it. Perhaps the effects are subtle and harder to pin down but lead to a number of diseases. I don't oppose this idea - just the irrational fears.

If you take the time to go to the original source research you will find it is of very poor quality. Meta-Analysis of poorly designed and executed studies doesn't improve the situation. How does one do RF testing outside of a Faraday cage? Subjecting people or animal models to signal strengths equivalent to living inside a microwave oven is of little value.

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Ps - I like the Upton Sinclair quote. Fortunately, I'm retired from the semiconductor industry and I don't depend on anyone for income. I'm free to learn anything or hold any opinion without consequences. (Except perhaps the FBI may put me on a domestic terrorist watchlist for voting for the wrong candidate or speaking angrily to my local school board).

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🤣😂 What a patronising exercise in blatant deception. Congrats. Does ChatGPT write your nonsense? 🤣😂

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No, but when I have "argued" with ChatGPT, it has always come around to agree with my position in the end.

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What's your interpretation of that recent Swiss ban on 5G?

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What is the latest on that subject? I thought that happened in February 2020, but then the story changed to "it was a misunderstanding." Has it recently been banned? Sorry, I have not kept up on that topic.

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Have you seen the new street light poles that emit 5G that are going up in many urban areas?

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Hello Cousin Denise :-)

Yes, these 5G base stations you mention are increasing in numbers. Once you get an idea what they look like, you will notice them popping up in more places. I know this alarms many people, because the thought is more base stations = more of the bad stuff. But a benefit of 5G is that the cell sizes are smaller and therefore transmit power is lower. 5G also adds "phased-array" beam steering, which means the base stations can direct their beams towards the intended recipient. This saves transmit power and bandwidth. When the base station needs to talk to your device, it locates its general direction and sends the signal that way. When it is talking to devices in other directions, you won't receive much of the EMF. With 4G, the transmit power has to be much higher because the cell size is much larger and the signal must be able to reach the far end of the range. The analogy is this: 4G is like being in a large sports stadium and listening to a speaker on the field. The speaker would require a loud PA system to read people in the nose bleed seats. 5G is like breaking up everyone in the stadium into many small conference rooms.

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......as I noted in my own Comment previous to yours, considerations of 'strength' are ALL completely SUBJECT/IVE, to potentially-facilitating MEDIAL characteristics such as distribution of densities, their (AS present, true; alterations - due to injections, abrasions / cuts, burns, scars and otherwise ABSOLUTELY impacting subsequent effects, HOWEVER minimally) uniformity (determining 'heat', thermal values produced by FRICTION) any AFFECTING relationships resonantly established (COLLOQUIAL term, 'entanglement') William.....

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No 5g is a different frequency to 4g .. it is used on the battlefield to target enemy positions and confuse and disrupt thinking strategies... developed by Military for a reason.. so everyone trying to tell you it’s okay.. it’s safe .. are not telling you the whole truth...

Already people are experiencing health issues .. sleeping issues when they leave phones and routers on.... try switching even 4g off at night and notice how much better you sleep.. this technology is in its infancy.. and even children developing brain tumours because their bedrooms sit inside and electric pylons magnetic field took years to prove.. yet even now .. with that knowledge.. nothing gets done changed or stopped.. join the dots.

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not sure about all the papers on covid. Remember all the papers on Alzheimer and not one step closer to knowing what it is, what triggers it, let alone a treatment. Has been going on for 100 or so years. Just started reading the book 'crooked' about damage by heavy metals and jabs. Going on for almost 200 years. I have the idea that the medical world is in a topsy tervy jar, or should we say, a money cookie jar?

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Magnesium is nature's calcium channel blocker, and many are deficient.

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nahhh ... swiss are known as cheese makers .... if there was anything trump would have told us ...

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Swiss make good chocolate (if you go to small villages you might find true chocolate gems). or just good old Läderach

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What I find as interesting is your discussion of calcium chanels and that as it turns out, coronaviruses love calcium and that SARS-CoV-2 envelope structural protein found to form voltage-activated and calcium-activated calcium channels.

According to this article published by the NIH. Given the crucial role of calcium channels in the cardiac conduction system, mutations and dysfunctions of these channels are known to cause several diseases and disorders. - ( Calcium Channels in the Heart: Disease States and Drugs: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35326393/ )

The combination of the virus and it also being voltage activated also shines a light on the heart issues associated with Covid from a calcium channel perspective and not just the blood-clot aspect.

Linking as usual @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/

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Yep. Walter Chesnut has some interesting takes on the calcium channelopathy angle. I noticed very early on that calcium dysregulation in COVID-19 would lead to substantial ROS release.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4556774/

Many of the severely-ill with COVID-19 had low vitamin D, low nitric oxide, low glutathione, and elevated oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation biomarkers, along with signs of calcium and iron dyshomeostasis, all of which are indicative of redox imbalance.

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People keep talking as though covid 19 has been identified but from all I've seen it hasn't. But everyone ignores that. Also there are several doctors disputing the idea that viruses occur outside the body and that they do not cause disease but appear when diseased tissue needs removal. Why is everyone ignoring these findings?

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https://www.bitchute.com/video/B2VjoSyKNfDg/

emfhelpcenter.com, this guy rocks, appropriate anger and well informed.

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This document proves that the US military have been aware of the impact of EMFs since 1976:

https://stateofthenation2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/us_dia_1976_biological_effects_of_electromagnetic_radiation.pdf

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Your article is deliberately constructed to deceive your readers.

In the first paragraph you mislead by asserting that airborne 'viruses' exist. Please provide evidence for that sweeping and inaccurate claim.

In the final paragraph you concede that EMFs from 5G may be something to worry about!

You have the NERVE to refer to a Professor as a 'fellow' as if he is alone in his deliberations and conclusions!

Please note the work of Prof Yuri Grigoriev, Arthur Firstenberg, Dr Magda Havas and many others.

We have discussed this matter before and I have provided an archive of related studies, articles and books here:

https://francesleader.substack.com/p/all-my-substack-articles-on-emfc19

It would seem that you have neglected to visit that archive.

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Many tools can be used as a weapon.

Should we outlaw the shovel ?

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If its mandated and spread in aerosol fashion, yes.

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......wireless radiation technology is NOT even EFFICACIOUS for ACTIVE communications between sources, David; fiber-optic, FAR more preferable (but LESS materially lucrative; IMPRACTICAL to TRACK, surveil, teslaphoretically 'AGONIZE' susceptible biologics) and a LOT less ecosystemically TOXIC (although ALL artificial EMFs do and HAVE, affected life since the late 1700's - but means of SIGNIFICANTLY minimizing those effects, exists right NOW - and I've been trying to identify every 'radioprotective' natural agent, optimized combination of same.....

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Fiber optics are great. But I giggled when I read your comment and imagined you walking around going about your business with a very long fiber trailing from your pocket. Don't trip over it!

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......DIDN'T occur to me when I composed that part - but, can DEFINITELY see where you MIGHT find it amusing, yes.....my younger brother was likely among the EARLIEST casualties of ol 'SPIKEY, and sustained exposure to second-generation wireless radiation, succumbing to both from RESULTANT cancer 23 years ago next month.....

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there is a lot of information and discussion concerning terrain vs germ theory and that a virus is not what we have been taught.

this seems to go along with the idea that much of what we are taught is, in fact, incorrect or only partially correct.

i saw yesterday a testimonial by a NYC cop who developed blindness as a result of diabetes and was told his condition was irreversible and required a number of pharmaceuticals to treat the symptoms. He didn't accept this, and through diet was able to reverse the cause and thus healed himself. His mother, taking 12 pills daily, did likewise.

There is also much offered about the virus never having been sequenced.

There appears to be a deeper agenda and that "science" is less settled than appears.

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Great Leap Forward!

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“For another thing, there are hundreds of thousands of papers that have been published on SARS-CoV-2 itself. It is pretty much a statistical impossibility, at this point, that the entire body of research on COVID-19 describes a hoax. The no-virus theories simply don’t hold up to the most basic of scrutiny.“

These are ridiculous statements. Just because a self-serving, profligately funded industry is writing about something, does not make it a statistical certainty to exist.

Additionally, there are no “no virus theories”. What we have are virus theories which don’t stand up to the most basic of scrutiny from the No Virus crowd.

Why are you being so deliberate to establish that SARS-COV-2 is a real thing? That seems like the whole point of this article. The rest is window dressing.

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It has very little to do with funding and everything to do with attention and effort. It is highly implausible that tens of thousands of molecular biologists, pathologists, immunologists, et cetera, were completely taken for a ride and spent millions of man-hours performing experiments and penning research about a phenomenon that did not exist. If that was the case, someone would have talked. Actually, a lot of people would have. It would have been impossible to keep it a secret.

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I think the whole "no virus" thing is fairly ridiculous myself, but I find your argument unconvincing. The history of science is full of phenomena that were taken very seriously at the time and then later decided to be phantoms. Think of "phlogiston", for an easy example.

Ten thousand scientists can absolutely be wrong all together in the same moment, especially when they're all following the same trends, participating in the same peer-review circle jerks, and sucking up to the same set of funders. It happens all the time.

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I beg to differ. We have countless examples of fraud writ large. We have an entire vaccine industry that appears to produce nothing but sickness and death. We had tens of thousands of doctors and Purdue Pharmaceutical drive an epidemic of OxyContin abuse that we are still dealing with. By the way, they are getting off with no jail time for anyone. I could go on. Money begets effort.

Bottom line is we know there are third rails in science and I’m telling you WTF SARS-COV-2 really is and what it is really capable of is one of them.

I don’t accept any assertion that we know what it is and what it’s done.

As for people who say it doesn’t exist, they are holding the null hypothesis IMHO. And it’s particularly vexing to the frauds who want us to believe the current narrative on SARS-COV-2. So I’m enjoying watching them stir the pot.

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You're supposed to be smart. Do you seriously believe there is an invisible "virus"floating in the air? Maybe you believe in witches and goblins too. 🤡

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Like I've said, this is not a terrain theory blog. The virus is real, it is highly contagious (like measles, really), and it can make some people quite sick. Luckily, it's not nearly as deadly as the authorities seem to imply it is, with an IFR in the under-50 population that is practically negligible.

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Um, yeah, sure, there's some invisible "virus" floating in the air. 🤪

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Do you believe in invisible "EMF waves" floating in the air. Can THEY make you sick?

Goosey-gander much?

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Are you so fucking gullible? I've got an experimental pharmaceutical injection to sell you. It'll make you healthy. 🤡

https://viroliegy.com/2022/11/30/dr-mcculloughs-works-of-art/

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Spartacus is smart. Accept it.

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I second that Bibi !! Thank you Spartacus and thank you for the education.

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Mis-direction is not 'education'.

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Well rounded education and being aware is knowledge. Knowledge is powerful.

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Mis-direction is NOT education. This writer has not studied the topic adequately.

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Taking it all in… thank u

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When a person uses two rebellious names (Spartacus and Iceni) rather than their own name we should be cautious. It stinks of gatekeeping by the alphabettis.

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Especially when they're tragic heros of failed revolutions!

I think Sparty's organic, or at least if gatekeeping, doing a pretty bad job of it. But I agree, that was a poor choice of names. Not that anybody's asking my opinion. But hey, I'm just here for the lulz.

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