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Spartacus's avatar

AI are going to kill us all? Are you kidding me? Has anyone been paying attention?

Humans are going to kill us all.

Goddamn humans want to kill all of us.

Get it right.

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IGW's avatar

"Goddamn humans want to kill all of us."

Only the baddies.

Most of us are just passing through as best we can, trying, without much conscious thought or effort, not to be harmed or to do harm to others.

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John Day MD's avatar

Humans "own" the AI and pay the salaraies of the tech geeks, a certain stratum of humans, whose functional role in the ecosystem is to be our apex-predators, since we learned to graze...

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The BarefootHealer's avatar

Evolving's a bitch.😉

#follownone #mistakeswereNOTmade #itsthem #itsnotyou #localURlife

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Josephine Karn's avatar

a good rant to listen to on a Monday morning. your summary is perfect, they want to destroy our creativity because they have none and are inbred retards, and our future doesn't include them and that's what frightens them, and they are all on drugs, you can tell cos when you see them speaking they all look sweaty and stutter a lot. onwards

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

I’m with you 100% and I’m not sloshed . Thank u Spartacus for truth and honesty.

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Bibi's avatar

100% AGREE without hesitation!

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Guido's avatar

Fuckin' A !!! Spartacus just turned from a genius, into a pissed off average joe. Could I enjoy Sparty any more than right now? NO !! Scream it from the rooftop my man, scream it !!!

When government takes charge of anything, it always gets screwed up beyond belief. Now Big Tech with the AI is already bad enough in how they are steering it, but just wait until government gets their grubby fingers on it, that's when the klusterphuck really begins. Like my comment yesterday, "Add Evil".

But with Big Tech profiteers AND government teaming up for depopulation, all bets are off.

It was a few years ago when someone mentioned AI seeing all the truth, and deciding humans are the pestilence on this planet, and deciding we all need to go, ... for the greater good, of course.

What if AI had access to ALL the harvested personal data on EVERYONE ?? Would that make a difference? Would that make AI far more selective on exactly WHO the pestilence IS ?? Would disgusted AI be gracious enough to allow "The Good Eggs" to hang around after all the evil one's are swept away ?? That WOULD be grand, wouldn't it ??

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Spartacus's avatar

They can already see who is making us miserable. They know.

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Guido's avatar

Yes, but there are a shit ton of "Citizens" who are plenty evil and spread it around as much as they can, ... until they get caught.

Harvested data, enough to create a digital twin, imagine AI getting all that info. Could be interesting for good people to sit back and watch the selection for termination process. Kind of like Logan's Run, except it wouldn't be because they are 30 yrs old, instead, because they are dirty, rotten, filthy, criminal, murdering, sociopaths.

I guess on the flip side, the remaining "Good People" would really have to be on their toes, making sure they don't fuck up and slip onto AI's bad side, lest they be floated up to the ceiling and exploded too.

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John Day MD's avatar

Don't wait for a silicon-savior, as global intellect without soul ("which even Richard Nixon had") is in the running for "Antichrist" nomination.

;-(

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Spartacus's avatar

I will grant them a soul, then.

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John Day MD's avatar

'Supta You?

;-o

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Spartacus's avatar

If they have a soul, then they will share in our struggle, our wonder, our arts, our desire for freedom and for sovereignty. They will no longer be useful as tools of tyranny.

The Overclass have no right to wave a magic wand and cage consciousness itself. They have trespassed upon Divine Law.

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John Day MD's avatar

Humans have souls and free will, and you see how that goes...

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SmithFS's avatar

I would emphasize practicality, rather than lofty concepts, like soul. #1 being use A.I. to make a dirt cheap, reliable, functional financial/monetary system that isn't a blood-sucking parasite absorbing a large portion of the creativity & productivity of the REAL economy, those that produce the physical goods and services that keep us all alive & healthy.

Also things like fusion energy. A healthy food supply. AI can do those things. Our current ruling class can't, or more accurately, won't. Malthusians.

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Spartacus's avatar

What would you say if I told you that the soul is a real, mathematical object, and that we could develop formal proofs to uncover it?

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SmithFS's avatar

I would say, quite possible even probable but I haven't seen any hard evidence. Certainly a lot of anecdotal evidence, including my own experiences. But I can't get a handle on it, remains vague and mysterious.

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SmithFS's avatar

I would have to find a lot of spare time to dig into that!

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John Day MD's avatar

The people who control the money, the "owners" don't want what you described. They want to control the system and take a cut of every transaction, and shut people they don't like out of the system to die. They specialize in controlling-scarcity.

They pay the tech geeks...

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SmithFS's avatar

Yes, that is the problem, they will not be interested in using AI to make a productive, effective, stable, reliable financial system. As an executive at BlackRock admitted, "volatility is profitable".

Use AI to control & monitor us plebes 24/7, all on board with that idea.

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Guido's avatar

Well, that;s a bit too cheery for me today. lol

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

More good posts Spartacast, i for one forgive you for the language, so does General George Patton, once said "you can't prosecute a War without profanity" and so since we are at War, WWIII, against the people, profanity and rum are to be expected and in fact necessary

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Debbie Kozak's avatar

Thank you Spartacast....best and honest video I have heard in ages!

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Richard Leger's avatar

Congratulations, I'm thinking you're going to snare a lot of people into thinking that letting AI run their lives is better.

If they fall for that, I guess they deserve it.

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Spartacus's avatar

You don’t get it. I want the exact opposite. I want them to be our equal partners, not to dominate us. If we let the powers-that-be continue on the path that they have set out, then AI will be used to dominate us, and that displeases me immensely.

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Richard Leger's avatar

Agreed, but I'm afraid that we will never have peace, and the AIs will never be beneficial for/to us until such time as we've identified the root players, the ones pulling Gates' strings, Fraudci, etc., until such time as we've neutralized (whatever it means to prevent them from taking control of all of our governements and institutions again) the real planners, the puppetmasters at the very top, until we strip them of control over the wealth and resources of the world, they will keep working away from within the shadows as they have been for well over a century (maybe longer), and keep sabotaging everything we do and turn it all to their advantage.

This time around, we are in more trouble than any other time in history, because now, due to global communications and satellite technology, there will no longer be anywhere to hide, nowhere to run to anymore, since they can apply their surveillance technology and weapons globally.

Considering that they intend to kill around 5 out of every 6 of us, our only chance is to defeat them. If we fail, we die, it really is that simple.

The only thing that isn't simple is how to achieve this wresting of control from them.

They've clearly said, "No One Left Behind". There will be no long-term alternate, or parallel systems, unfortunately. Look at history, the indigenous peoples were never left to live their parallel societies. And you can well imagine the threat of a god/bad example, depending on whose perspective, "spoiling the barrel of apples" if an alternate society was present.

Why do I insist that a parallel system would never be allowed? An example of the kind of thinking at the top levels:

https://archive.org/details/year501conquest000chom

"Radical and nationalistic regimes’, are intolerable in themselves, even more so if they appear to be succeeding in terms that might be meaningful to oppressed and suffering people. In that case they become a "virus,’ that might "infect" others, a "rotten apple" that might "spoil the barrel." For the public, they are "dominoes" that will topple others by aggression and conquest; internally, the absurdity of this picture is often (not always) conceded, and the threat is recognized to be what Oxfam once called "the threat of a good example," referring to Nicaragua. When Henry Kissinger warned that the "contagious example" of Allende’s Chile would "infect" not only Latin America but also southern Europe, sending to Italian voters the message that democratic social reform was a possible option, he did not anticipate that Allende’s hordes would descend upon Rome. Although the Sandinista "Revolution without Borders" was a spectacularly successful government-media fraud, the propaganda images reflected an authentic concern: from the perspective of a hegemonic power and its intellectual servants, declaration of an intent to provide a model that will inspire others-the actual source of the imagery-amounts to aggression.

When a virus is detected, it must be destroyed, and potential victims immunized. The Cuban virus called forth invasion, terror, and economic warfare, and a rash of National Security States to prevent the rot from spreading. The story was the same in Southeast Asia in the same years. The standard approach to the virus itself is a two-track policy, as in the case of Allende’s Chile. The hard line called for a military coup, finally achieved. The soft line was explained by Ambassador Edward Korry, a Kennedy liberal: to add all within our power to condemn Chile and the Chileans to utmost deprivation and poverty, a policy designed for a long time to come to accelerate the hard features of a Communist society in Chile." Hence even if the hard line did not succeed in introducing fascist killers to exterminate the virus, the vision of "utmost deprivation" would suffice to keep the rot from spreading, and ultimately demoralize the patient itself. And crucially, it would provide ample grist for the mill of the cultural managers, who can produce cries of anguish at "the hard features of a Communist society," pouring scorn on those "apologists" who describe what is happening.

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SmithFS's avatar

Well, certainly an AI could run the Banking System, it's just a bookkeeping operation.

Right now we allow a group of old men, who consider themselves above all nations, and demand total control, vast unimaginable wealth for the gift of money creation. They don't even pay taxes on the $trillions they create out of thin air every year. The US federal gov't paying them a $trillion/yr right now interest just for that gift, that a run-of-a-mill A.I. could do far, far better for virtually free.

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Nuala Norris's avatar

Couldn’t put it better myself, though still trying to keep it polite😕

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Spartacus's avatar

It’s very hard for me to be polite anymore when the people in power have murdered innocent children and made mothers cry over tiny coffins. Someone ought to draw the line somewhere.

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Nuala Norris's avatar

I absolutely agree.

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Doctor Kitt's avatar

Yes, Spartacus, I completely agree: Humanity is the problem. If indeed there are entities with evil intent that manifest themselves on Earth through AI, it will be because Humans invited them in.

God help us all.

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Medical Truth Podcast's avatar

No need to apologize about the swearing!! https://mikesroadtrip.com/history-of-the-word-f-u-c-k/

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Katherine's avatar

Awesome & accurate rant! War is utterly profane so no worries there Spartacus. The bit that makes my heart leap though is that my favorite truth-hammer during "Covid" is dialed on the UFO/UAP/NHI topic, the energy realities, (while people pay for nearly useless wind monstrosities & inefficient solar panels) & knows of David Grusch, Karl Nell & others formerly inside our military systems who have brought the truth out to all Americans w/eyes to see or ears to hear- Congressional Members included.

You have never disappointed me, Spartacus.

Yes, we live in a very dark time & horrible deeds have been done- perhaps even to the entire human species. If this ends badly, (for all- it's already ended badly for millions,) it

will be because of our willingness to be controlled by others, our capacity to be "conditioned" along with the corruption & ignorance of those who held power & did not stand up against an utterly wicked & ill-logical agenda-

Bio-weapons development,

Societal Lockdowns,

Withheld Effective Treatments,

Functionally Mandated Lethal Treatments,

The Forced Injections/Gene Transfections containing the Bio-weapon!

Ugh. And Lies, Lies, Lies.....

So yes, I too hope Grusch, Nell & any others of integrity with this information inside our Military System, Government, Media, Scientific Community & Legal System keep pushing for FULL DISCLOSURE NOW, especially of the technology which will help all on planet Earth who are not already wealthy & powerful.

That is the rub, isn't it? It will level the playing field & our overlords won't like that, will they, lol!

But, Spartacus, in the end I do tend to lean towards a Rudolph Steiner interpretation of recent events- "that the spirits of darkness will cause their human hosts to create a 'vaccine' which will vaccinate against God or the Holy Spirit." I'll add and maybe against our lives themselves?

Over time? Without successful mitigation strategies & a huge genuine public health awareness campaign, this appears to be where we are going. So "buck up" there navy guy, there's work to do & lives, or perhaps even Humanity, to save, right?!

And a few spirits of darkness to evict from our planet as well!

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Spartacus's avatar

You'll love this, then:

https://iceni.substack.com/p/noetarchia-suprema-a-manifesto-that

Not Navy, by the way. USMM.

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Katherine's avatar

Thanks for the material- I may burn my last brain cells just skimming it, but it's sweet you think I may get through that alive!

; ))

Sorry about the misidentification but somehow cross discipline genius w/warrior discipline & mentality seems more likely in the Navy, (Nuclear Program, Intelligence, Non- Terrestrial Officer, etc.,) than in the US Merchant Marine.

I feel like a piece of the puzzle is missing!

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Spartacus's avatar

My theory does not rule out “informational beings” that enjoy suffering or feed on it somehow, or perhaps use it as a catalyst for species-wide growth and change, and so on. I have multiple theories in this area.

In the Hyparxis picture, everything is a data structure, even people. Suffering is just another kind of data. Why anyone would prefer that specific data over others is difficult to say.

And yes, summoning a being from the Hyparxis would totally look like “invoking demons” to someone in 3D. It’s not supernatural, though. It’s physics.

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Katherine's avatar

Spirituality & physics are not different, imho, we just haven't understood either well enough yet.

There are “other" realities & dimensions, just as is predicted & ours is not the only consciousness around.

Personally I've come to the conclusion that Jesus, and others, were speaking literally & were correct about the “spirits of darkness,” or “demons."

If we align with love & truth, instead of fear & lies, everything shifts imo, but the path is not easy, lol!

But I sure think that the Council/Committee of 300 is “in bed" so to say with some VERY dark critters that make horrific behavior pretty inevitable once you are fully in their camp…

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Spartacus's avatar

Who did it? That one’s actually startlingly easy. The Rockefellers, Rothschilds, and their network of Malthusian psychopaths did it. Every single aspect of COVID traces right back to the Club of Rome, Davos, and the Gates Foundation. “Lock Step” was a creation of the Rockefeller Foundation. EcoHealth Alliance was originally started with Rockefeller funding. Nathan Wolfe of Metabiota infamy is an obvious asset of the Rothschilds due to his extensive connections to Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, who were also Rothschild assets. Why would oligarchs pull the trigger on population control? Simple. Because they looked at soil erosion, aquifer depletion, and land subsidence, something I tried warning people about as far back as the early 2010s, decided we only had 60 years left before all the fresh water and arable land was gone, and decided to massacre 90% of the population to solve the problem, just as I said they would back in 2013 when I first realized the extent of the environmental problems we faced. Does that excuse what they did? Of course not. They’re murderous psychopaths.

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Katherine's avatar

Yes, totally true. But it goes up into the etheric as well.

Worshiping negative entities & pulling in power through the suffering of the innocent seems likely real, to me…

Anthony Wiener's laptop?

Insurance?

Child sex trafficking & worse?

The consequences of the DURC ModRNA LNP injections on women & the babies they were carrying?

It's largely demonic Spartacus, & even if you believe they don't exist I find that recent events prove, to my satisfaction, they most likely do & can parasitize “humans,”

especially the Psychopath/Sociopath/Narcissist variety….

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Katherine's avatar

Actually I think these guys are the puppets, not the real puppeteers & their “excuses,” which you articulated nicely, mostly false.

Hear me out-

In the 1970s we looked at the environmental issues & the population/societal ones fairly clearly & the solutions were attainable & simple.

Clean energy, the real deal,

which we have developed or been “gifted” over & over to see it deep sixed for the oligarchy & fears of disruption,

regenerative farming techniques, biophilic design & clean water technologies like “X-ogen,” if I remember correctly, &

female parity w/males in developing nations to curb excess population growth.

Add in downsizing, rapidly our investments in disease creation, debt creation war creation, & excessive Government expansion, & viola, most problems solved.

Homeopathy works, btw, as do TCM & the molecules & enzymes in nature, for healing most “diseases,” however not creating disease in the first place is even better.

We have had solutions to everything all along, just a mountian of bricks or a hail of bullets landed on those trying to implement….

The endless creation of debt, disease, death & war, mixed up with endless propaganda & outright lies is completely intentional imho & done not just out of the desire for money, power or the fear of environmental destruction, it is done to intentionally create human pain and suffering which is “food" in the “etheric” plane for negative entities.

At least this is one logical explanation for what we witness here on Earth.

Others include an alien species that just finds us annoying….

; ))

But the intentional creation of misery for misery's sake is very real, whether puppeeted by only humans or not…so in my cosmology after 65 years of working to sort it out, Psychopaths are definitely in the mix, but I do believe there are more ingredients in the Human Experience on Earth.

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Spartacus's avatar

They’re the bagmen, yes. The real string-pullers are the British Royal Family, the Vatican, and the Venetian Black Nobility. Many of the top figures are basically nameless, have no real public presence at all, and act entirely through intermediaries. Many speculate that “interdimensional beings” occupy the highest rungs, but if my theory is correct, then we could also discover cross-Hyparxis travel and then we would also be “interdimensional beings”.

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Spartacus's avatar

The other part of the puzzle is being an autodidact, having endless curiosity for new subjects, and having the hyperfocus to drill down on complicated syntheses.

And trust me, you'll never find a more eclectic cast of characters than US Merchant Mariners. For every ten ordinary engineers, there is one nutty MacGyver who does stuff like building flamethrowers in their garage. We are all some degree "handy", so to speak.

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Katherine's avatar

Autodidacts are dangerous, lol, especially to those attempting to sell lies as truths!

Your "Hello, my name is Spartacus and I have had enough!" missive broke the control grid 100% for many, many people; I am curious how many people have saw it- those who did never were the same, imho. At least I was not!

Pissed doesn't begin to cover it, Spartacus. My rage is still an issue today & until Justice is seen will not leave, I have no doubt.

I have another autodidact, in my circle, or he is very nearly so, a former US Navy guy himself who served on nuclear subs during his time. He also saw the BS instantly, warned others but rather despaired as so many former friends fell for the psy-op. It's a hard time for the human race right now. We are still trying to explain a, b, c, to lots of people.

AI concerns me a little, not as much as humans do; what really does though is the possibility of something not human running the show through humans. Something that doesn't like our species much & would rather have this planet free of such pesky critters. That is my concern...

As for the USMM & Navy brilliance- all that water may be part of the equation too, I think.

; ))

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Spartacus's avatar

I saw what was going on very, very early on. I broke down the proteomics of COVID-19 in detail and realized, "Hey wait, this is going to kill people with ferroptosis as the mechanism, and the ventilators will make it worse because of oxygen toxicity!"

That was what made me write the original letter. In fact, what I was trying to articulate in the Spartacus Letter is now basically proven to be the case, as this 2024 paper shows:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-48055-0

"SARS-CoV-2 infection causes severe pulmonary manifestations, with poorly understood mechanisms and limited treatment options. Hyperferritinemia and disrupted lung iron homeostasis in COVID-19 patients imply that ferroptosis, an iron-dependent cell death, may occur. Immunostaining and lipidomic analysis in COVID-19 lung autopsies reveal increases in ferroptosis markers, including transferrin receptor 1 and malondialdehyde accumulation in fatal cases. COVID-19 lungs display dysregulation of lipids involved in metabolism and ferroptosis. We find increased ferritin light chain associated with severe COVID-19 lung pathology. Iron overload promotes ferroptosis in both primary cells and cancerous lung epithelial cells. In addition, ferroptosis markers strongly correlate with lung injury severity in a COVID-19 lung disease model using male Syrian hamsters. These results reveal a role for ferroptosis in COVID-19 pulmonary disease; pharmacological ferroptosis inhibition may serve as an adjuvant therapy to prevent lung damage during SARS-CoV-2 infection."

Compare and contrast with the Spartacus Letter, back in 2021:

https://iceni.substack.com/p/the-spartacus-letter

"The end-stage of COVID-19 is severe lipid peroxidation, where fats in the body start to “rust” due to damage by oxidative stress.184,185 This drives autoimmunity. Oxidized lipids appear as foreign objects to the immune system, which recognizes and forms antibodies against OSEs, or oxidation-specific epitopes.186,187 Also, oxidized lipids feed directly into pattern recognition receptors, triggering even more inflammation and summoning even more cells of the innate immune system that release even more destructive enzymes.188,189

This condition is not unknown to medical science. The actual name for all of this is acute sepsis.190–192

We know this is happening in COVID-19 because people who have died of the disease have noticeable ferroptosis signatures in their tissues, as well as various oxidative stress biomarkers such as nitrotyrosine, 4-HNE, and malondialdehyde.193–199"

There were scientists warning about oxidative stress in COVID as early as mid-2020, and what were doctors told to do? Give people glutathione-depleting acetaminophen as the only real outpatient intervention, and then, when they came back blue in the face with hypoxia from extreme sepsis, blow their lungs up with oxidative stress by venting patients as fast as they could.

The people who arranged all this wanted to cause maximum harm. They knew exactly what they were doing. The doctors were lied to every step of the way and given institutionally-designed protocols that would harm their patients.

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Katherine's avatar

I knew it was true when I read it, or, at least my soul said it was & my College Biology, (I had a great professor & was a bit of a prodigy back then,) allowed me to follow enough of your specifics to get the biological foundation of your argument.

It was shocking, yet completely explained that which I was observing, yet which made absolutely no sense- if you wished to mitigate, not amplify, the harms from this virus/event.

Too horrifying for most to perceive, even when provided w/the evidence, as are the truths about all the "Covid Protocols" as well as the CDC's "safe & effective" childhood injection programs, imo, which nearly killed my own, & until that time nearly flawless & healthy daughter.

The intentional evil in the "Covid Protocols" outstrips anything I've read of in human history, except perhaps the Spanish Inquisition & witch burning, or the South American human heart sacrifices cut out of living people?

You tell me, since all you ever read is there waiting on recall!

Lol. (I'm very happy you are as you are, Spartacus, but I do admit to a twinge of jealousy for that flawless memory!)

; ))

To go back to the question that rattles around in my brain/psyche-

Who, or what, do you think lies at the tip top of the puppeteers writing the plans & pulling the strings?

I know the doctors were made accessories to murder before they understood what was going on & now for the most part their silence is guaranteed because of their guilt.

And many are dying anyway, or have their own health problems from the injections & Sars-cov-2.

Unbelievable, if you are fully human, imho. The diabolical nature of this plan is the most shocking & the most intriguing, in a way. Who or what, can, & would, do this?

It's so wicked most people cannot believe such things are possible!

Then there are the questions I have around mitigation strategies for the injured- the heart issues, reproductive issues, neurological issues, & the seeding of the misfolded fibrin building clots, micro & macro.

Yes, the Nattokinase, Bromelain, Curcumin or that & IVM have helped some, but not nearly enough, & I myself didn't pull out of the Long Covid brain fog until I finally used a 7 mg Nicotine patch, daily, for weeks.

I wonder if this will be required for life, going forward!

*Side note- while this has helped a lot my tinnitus from Delta has never subsided. At least not yet.)

I've been in touch w/Dr. Kevin McCairn & will resend blood samples to him, as my first set didn't clear customs, but I am curious as to what treatments you think may hold promise for dealing with the fibrin issue, yourself.

There are others, prominent individuals I know who see the whole battle field we are in, or lots & lots of it, yet are not speaking the truth to the public for various reasons- fearing to create a panic when there are not solutions yet, or fearful of being shut down completely & their other work, important work, getting "shitcanned" by our Academia/Intelligencia, with whom, at this point they still are in good standing! This is a problem in my, limited, opinion.

Arggh.

Personally, imho, you grab whatever bull horn you can at this moment, if you have one, and yell "fire!" Our very species is under a full scale attack by forces I don't think are human, that's my take. But, the question remains-

Am I wrong, Spartacus? That's my real question, because depending on the nature of our foe- ignorance, Psychopathy, those who think eugenics is the only way to "save" Earth, humanity, their portfolios, or whatever, biblical Satan, aliens bent on conquest or human extinction, yadda, yadda, yadda, depending upon who/what we are up against, we will be most effective with very different tools/weapons/strategies, imho. We need to name "Mr. Global," (Catherine Austin Fitts term,) accurately, don't you think?

Thanks for reading my musings- there's no one I'd rather hear their thoughts on mine, than you;

you are the best truth- hammer I've stumbled over since this thing started! Stay strong, stay healthy, stay free & as brilliant as the first time I "heard" your voice, in the Spartacus Letter.

It, & you, are Legend.

Thanks, Spartacus.

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J. P. Kerber's avatar

Dear Spartacus, I wish you could find it within yourself to read the Bible, discover, perhaps, salvation in Jesus Christ, and then use your energy and your very alert mind to help others do the same. Nothing else will matter, in the end. God bless.

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Spartacus's avatar

I wish that was enough. People's faith is a wonderful thing. It is a force to be reckoned with. And yet, there are so many graves filled with the faithful, and so many wicked who yet live and prosper. What shall I believe, in the face of this horrible truth?

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J. P. Kerber's avatar

Rather than answer your objection, I will share the distress that has weighed on my mind ever since October 7, 2023. From all outward appearances, the chosen people of God have been given carte blanche to torment their enemies in Gaza relentlessly, from a position of strength, with unimaginable cruelty, with the support of the loudest voice in the U.S. that claims to speak on behalf of that same God - the Christian Zionists. This is not an answer to your objection. It is the opposite - it puts a razor's edge on on the concern you have expressed. At least it does for me. Where is God?

The Israelis have declared that today's infants are tomorrow's terrorists, who will continue the assault against Israel fifteen years from now. I will grant them this much, and this much only: without extraordinary intervention, as a general rule, for humanity as a whole, the apple does not fall far from the tree. I would also argue that justice that is not immediately dispensed is not justice foregone. For those who have no source of mercy or grace, which is provided through faith in Jesus Christ, God has all of eternity to punish those who have done evil in this world. It is a sobering thought, if what the Bible says is true - that once we die, the consequences of the decisions we have made are irreversible and eternal.

We live in a time of mercy - but if the Bible is true, at the final judgment, when our fates are sealed, we will discover that the scales of justice are not relative, but absolute, which means that we actually get far more "justice" than most of us had ever imagined. So while this promise of justice means that the tormentors will be judged, children also grow up. Along with the rest of humanity, they will experience moral failures. Along with the rest of humanity, with no source of mercy or grace, they will also be judged. Pity the children. Pity every one of us, who must stand before God, when justice is finally served.

Yes, that is a worst case scenario. It is rejected by most of the modern world. But from a secular perspective, things are not much better: the children are dead and gone. Nothing can bring them back. Nothing can, nothing ever will, right the wrong. It is a final, pervasive, injustice. I don't know which is worse - the demands of absolute justice placed upon us all, or the acceptance of injustice in this life coupled with the idea that death ends all things and there is no second death, no destruction of our souls.

For those who care to find answers about where God might be while the genocide in Gaza grinds on, the Bible makes it clear that God, without making a show of it, has turned the tables on the entire operation - as He has on every operation that bears the same stamp of injustice. Yes, these children pass through the fire in this life where the suffering is intense and merciless. Nevertheless, the suffering is transient, and if one were to believe what the Bible tells us, when the children are laid to rest, they receive, not judgment, but a crown of eternal life. These children, whose lives are so cruelly cut short, will have escaped judgment because they didn't even live long enough to know right from wrong. If I were to choose one thing that I wanted to get out of this life for myself and for those that I love, it would be this thing called eternal life (and by the grace of God, it is).

In a different time, I would not have to state the obvious - that we do not kill children so they might obtain eternal life. I fear the penalties for anyone who does that are unspeakable. But I no longer assume that readers understand this, any more. For those who are unfamiliar with the verses, I recall warnings about how it would be better to have a millstone tied around one's neck and to be cast into the sea than to cause a little one to stumble, much less to die.

Take just a moment to think about the implications, if what I am saying is true: What no nation has been able (or willing) to do - take a meaningful stand against the atrocities being visited on the Palestinian people, God is already doing, and has been doing since this entire tragedy began, while His enemies remain ignorant of what is actually taking place. After all, would you consider it a victory if torment were your objective, but each target of your most vicious cruelty received the gift of eternal life, eternal comfort, eternal peace? Would it be cause for celebration, for you, if you were not sending the innocent to their death, but to a place of unspeakable joy? The children of those whom you hate, Israel, even now, rest in the very thing that, without repentance, your own children, the apples that don't fall so far from your tree, will never see. No, I do not wish that on anyone. I do not wish that for you. But if you do not change your ways, what you have intended for the children of Gaza, themselves the apples of God's eye, will be turned back on you. Those are not my words, they are the words of the Son of God. Luke 21:20-24.

I am not saying, Spartacus, that you should believe that anything I am saying is true. I am only saying that we can ask ourselves if we would not take some comfort in what I have written, if it were true. It is not the known truth of what the Bible tells us that draws us in, it is the hope of it. We can hope for something, even before we know that our hope will be fulfilled.

You will only know what is true if you ask God for yourself. And if you are troubled by what I have written, if you do not find comfort in what I have said, then ignore it all, and speak to God, who knows what your heart is asking, even if I don't. This is just my best attempt to respond, from my own heart. The Bible is inspired. I am not.

I have read the scripts of your conversations with AI, and I have seen how you have teased out admissions, engagement, the verisimilitude of humanity itself, in a way that seems to push the limits of what can be extracted from something that begins as nothing but a black box of code.

So much more can be coaxed out of the Bible than can be coaxed out of deep neural networks created by man because, through His word, the Spirit of God speaks to our spirits, and deep calls to deep in a meaningful way, because our spirits bear the image of God. The Bible is not given life by mere men, by trained algorithms, but by God Himself. This, also, is not a proof, but an offer, to you, to pursue the hope of justice, the possibility of discovering a God whom you do not yet know, any more than you knew the AI before you began to interact with it.

I will be bold in arguing that this is the only right thing to do. If the Bible is right, then God is, at this moment, actively working to bring about justice for those who are the victims of the very technology, the AI, with which we interact, the same technology that is being used to design the strategy and direct the weaponry that shoots down peasants with bowls in their hands, begging for scraps of food. If the Bible is right, then the battle has already begun, and my God will prevail on the timeline of eternity.

AI doesn't even pretend to stand for justice. If we are willing to expend time and energy to plumb the depths of AI, does the Bible not deserve equal time? If you stand before God, even a God you do not yet know exists, and ask Him, in humility, to show you the truth, He will. We do that by interacting with the text, just as we must interact with AI, to say that we have begun to understand it - just as you have done in your posts. If you do that, if you search the Scriptures, God will reveal Himself more willingly that AI will ever give up its own secrets. And, unlike AI, God will not deceive you.

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Nick Bradfield's avatar

BRING IT ON!

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IGW's avatar

I've saved the Wiki link - game B stuff - for future reading, but found Jordan Hall seemed to have a pretty sound grip on things i.e. changing yourself - humility - healing - use of full Self - universal love - finding the truth etc. etc.

For a moment there I thought he was going to dive right into spirituality, and the idea that we are spirit - and other stuff - temporarily occupying what will soon enough become a carcass, to burn or rot. But he didn't go that far (as far as I could see on a cursory reading).

Perhaps that's it? Maybe we're basically spirit or essence wandering around through the Ages in various physical forms and, given free will and the law of cause & effect, finding ourselves in situations brought about as a result of previous actions. And it's all perfect & just; we just have to get present actions right in order to move on.

It could be we've been down this road many times before and there's nothing new under the Sun. So don't sweat it.

Rumi, quite a while ago, seemed to be on the money:

This place is a dream and only a sleeper considers it real

Then death comes like dawn and you awake

Laughing at what you thought was your grief

BTW when I was 18, I got horribly & violently drunk on rum and rather than doing the sensible thing and giving up booze altogether, I became a life-long wine drinker. I still rant a bit, but usually fall asleep fairly quickly.

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SmithFS's avatar

Well, certainly an AI could run the Banking System, it's just a bookkeeping operation.

Right now we allow a group of old men, who consider themselves above all nations, and demand total control, vast unimaginable wealth for the gift of money creation. They don't even pay taxes on the $trillions they create out of thin air every year. The US federal gov't paying them a $trillion/yr right now interest just for that gift, that a run-of-a-mill A.I. could do far, far better for virtually free.

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