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Spartacus's avatar

Seriously, though. Escapekey's appraisal of technocracy and systems theory is worth a look.

https://escapekey.substack.com/

When it comes to technocracy, we are not really talking about a political system. Technocracy views itself as post-political, making politicians and political processes obsolete and just "designing an optimal society" from the top down.

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John Day MD's avatar

Thank You, Spartacus. I'll open my next blog post with excerpts, particularly about how the military and elites view overpopulation during resource wars, which I think gets to the crux of the matter.

;-(

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Amat's avatar

Excellent podcast, you articulated my fears of what is happening now and what could happen in our future if this nanotechnology is allowed to go unchecked. The fake pandemic and everything that stemmed from it was essentially at its very core anti-human every single measure was used to dehumanise/objectify populations, we were objects that were demeaned and humiliated at each and every opportunity but they called it "infection control". The complexity of what you discuss I cannot fully understand but what I instinctively know is that as you have said COVID-19 was and is an "attack on humanity" which continues at full throttle.

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Spartacus's avatar

It is, admittedly, a somewhat complicated issue. There are thought to be millions of different genes that code for unique proteins in nature, but with AI, you can go outside this. You can design literally billions of entirely new genes from scratch, ones that code for novel proteins that have functions with no naturally evolved precedent. The proteins that currently exist could end up being but a teeny tiny subset of an entire universe of AI-generated proteins. These synthetic proteins could be used to engineer entirely new types of tissues that don't exist in nature, with completely new functions.

All the tissues in our bodies are made up of cells (fatty lipid bilayers) that contain, and are studded with, various kinds of proteins that dictate their structure and function, as well as how they communicate with other cells. For instance, skin is elastic because it's full of collagen fibrils built up of repeating units. Some animals out there have cells with functions that we don't have. Consider electric eels, for example. They have electrocytes that can discharge 600 volts into their prey. That's all done by proteins; the cells in question have an abundance of ion channels that enable them to rapidly change their electric potential.

If you can design proteins from scratch, you can do really, really weird things with them, like having cells form biolaser cavities that pump photons into amyloid fibril optical waveguides, and so on and so forth. At that point, you're just using proteins as engineering materials to design whatever sorts of components you want. Yes, this would include bioelectronics, biophotonics, logic gates, et cetera, all made out of organic material.

This isn't science fiction, either. They are actually, 100%, trying to do this exact sort of thing. See the following paper, for example:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867423014022

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Amat's avatar

No it is not science fiction and that is why it is quite terrifying, thank you for the article I am part of the way through. We are not machines to be tinkered with at this level they boast about being able to build proteins from the "ground up" but each human is complex and different from the other, this makes us unpredictable with the outcomes difficult to control. They do not care and will plough on regardless of the damage they will cause.

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aagabriel's avatar

Who are "they" who do not care? Surely "they" have a name, and a physical location?

Or do they live in a meta-realm, inhabiting our parasocial schema from a place of high ground which we cannot reach, see or address by name?

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

There are so many things we/you do not know that they are NOT TELLING US, i think you are very familiar with that correct? and there is misinformation and misdirection - Technology Deployment Curve

1. Technology is published/developed, and immediately revealed and adopted

2. Technology is published/and potentially adopted but has actually been in existence for years or

a decade, or longer

3. Technology is published/ and potentially adopted but the technology is a

misdirection/disinformation from the actual (similar but malevolent) obscured from the public

4. Technology is adopted but is completely obscured and hidden from the public for malevolent

reasons

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

the synbio is primary imo, the re-sequencing of the genome/ and to hybrid is for ideal cloud connection - Iobnt, and run on with BCI's , wireless drugging, and remote tissue engineering, ehealth is the trojan horse. There is focus on the SV 40 promoter and whether it is or is not substantial amounts of DNA entering nucleus of cells for permanent modification - and whether there are permanent expressions and CANCER, however, the real elephant to DNA changes for the above primary reasons, and therefore , bioinformatic and convid track and trace keeps up with substantial number of versions of the genetic fake "vaccines" , some for regenerative medicine and some to simply get rid of people too because if we are the live longer , eventually, would be the hope even if futile , there are too many people any way according to the crytocracy psychopaths. This is real and in play and should alarm

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

DE augmentation effects - ie subhuman

Is human intelligence starting to decline?

Recent results from major international tests show that the average person’s capacity to process information, use reasoning and solve novel problems has been falling since around the mid 2010s.

Performance in reasoning and problem solving tasks is declining (study)

You see, the cognitive abilities of masses is declining rapidly this is augmentation and there are specific technical reasons for it IMO

https://x.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1900537267308937416

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Spartacus's avatar

People are offloading more and more of their own cognitive load onto external devices. Everyone is carrying around smartphones that they use in lieu of actually storing things in memory, in their own heads. The problem is, you can't actually use logic and reasoning on things you don't memorize, so their engagement is limited to regurgitating ready-made factoids synthesized by other people. See how AI slots into this? Just replace the authority figure with AI, and now you have people regurgitating ready-made factoids from AI. And just like that, all critical thinking capacity is gone.

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

To let you know in case you want to dialogue, i am been surveilled in an extreme manner, by IC, since April of 2019. How it got started would take too much context and time to get into. But i have experience "on the ground" "in the street". Research is ancillary followup , to that. So the valuable parts to my knowledge experience is actual interactions. E Health and Al precision health care will / are running on same networks and net centric warfare. and are the trojan horse for build out, and then capture of masses. Based on what i can figure out, NOT ALL brains will can be hacked by any measure, based on my own experience. I have been trying to figure out the mechanisms, to reverse engineer what i have been shown , witnessed otherwise externally . But all i can do is come up with the available options. Which i have partly detailed on my website with 1000's of references. and a summary. So i appreciate people like you that have some technical proficiency i don't have. It probably does not matter whether i do or do not understand them but i try anyway from a Lay point of view. And a whole lot of "pattern recognition" thinking and a slight scale of telepathy. to let you know where i am coming from.

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

Another way to put it. AI to be customized to the individual based on massive data collection. and is a force, But individuality, creativity, sixth sense , human frequency of authenticity and love, and the human WILL, can never be one upped by AI. Making people SICK and dumbing them down is another matter but that will create simple chaos and disorder rather then than pure control . They aren't going to dinner in peace with esteem , to be worship from the people, but they will learn the hard way. because they are stubborn psychopaths -- but they are not a monolith, there are many competing factions, some will never want to come out of the shadows when things don' t work out , they retreat to live another day. Because they are used to that can they are also cowards, who win with total evil criminality in secret while they knife the regular guy in the back. Days are coming where they are outed. by the majority, rather than minority then interesting to see how plays out. God speed

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

So i would say, AI involved in the psychological experiment upon me, failed, and actually in some measures produced the opposite of intended results. Not the first couple of years. But at this point i actually get stronger with more of their "inputs" so they had to reduce them - and this is by my design and hand - and "we" know it - we being me and them but they wouldn't admit it - but since i just said this there will be new novel and or tried and true attempts in injure , fine then, that is the war i am in. And it represents a WAR the people, masses do not know they are in. WWIII is playing out and the treason is from within.

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

Yes, it seems that is what they are up to in process, with automated bioelectromagnetic algorithms of some sort, "writing" into the neurons. (thoughts, whether complicated or not) The extent to which a person has or does not have critical thinking skills and their "suggestibility" will play into, and lack of morals/ and a constitution , and IMO a connection with a higher authority (God) , a persons general health and ability to take stress, tech, emf, will play into whether and to what extent free will could be taken over. or partially taken over by AI control - seems to me as dumb as people are it is already happening with many - i mean we already have people virtue signaling for their own destruction, something is telling them it is a bad idea to simply READ

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

"include bioelectronics, biophotonics, logic gates, et cetera, all made out of organic material." , "This isn't science fiction, either. They are actually, 100%, trying to do this exact sort of thing. See the following paper" yes they are already doing this stuff

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

You see Spartacus the human brain and nervous system is wonderfully made, and very complex, it cannot be easily manipulated, with out mistake and harm to human health, to this synthetic world, BUT that does not mean then that they will not pursue it, they are as you know. Do you know even the cell membranes in many people are simply disintegrating as the synthetic intrusions were simply not meant to be in our systems. I mean all over body. They are fine with those people being naturally selected out of the gene pool. It is all like that , they don't care. Also, They ARE trying to dumb people down with trangenetic mutations germline - because it makes them easier to control , and quite frankly and this is behind the curtain , they have already mind blowing success with small brain wild life the likes of which you have no idea. And they went thru a large percentage dying off in the process , it is not just emf, that has killed off insects, wild life and certain animal species ,

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

So let me say, when i say mind blowing success, i mean with AI, not that AI is delivering the proteins, but that AI has advanced in autonomously running (and user intervention) the brains, behaviour, movements of certain biological non human life in particular -

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

I don't doubt some or many humans and also in play with tech, but what i am doing here , is telling you what i have verification of behind the curtain - it is not fun to know, it is a burden - i already have a standing disclosure of such and it is quite frankly astounding -

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aagabriel's avatar

This outlandish occultist fellow used few words to accurately describe this nano-bio-neuro-tech End of Times inversion.

The analogy of partitioning consciousness via continuous monitoring your data usage makes clear and present the dangers humanity faces.

All this tech, and seemingly just to excel at generating A.I. analyses? The devil promises the fool everything while in the same breath demanding you give it more and more of yourself, and of others..

Humankind thusly seduced & indentured cant do anything except beg the devil for more. More suffering and more sinful pleasures it initially promised.

https://youtu.be/sOD4ZQjiHvs

I hope it will help you somewhat.

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

I am glad you are connecting dots on these things, in addition there is significant amount of information that show synbio is well under way. There are multiple purposes for this synbio. The desire to play and be God, the arrogance to "do it better" , the desire with regenerative medicine to figure out how to live forever, on the backs of "regular people' the masses an experimental units, the desire the control people bodies, and bodily autonomy, which included abilty to make them sick and extort them thus and have that power (and use it for torture and the most diabolical manner) desire to control the thoughts of humans for brain -mind control, and addition literal movements of of humans controlling signal to limbs etc. , you can name more correct? because if we wait for these fuckers to tell us everything they are doing and we WAIT for only what is clearly available and verified ,, without misinformation , will it may be too late? In my opinion we have the right to speculate and demand answers from these mad scientist. I am going to make additional comments, and then i am going to ask you a few questions, i hope you can engage,

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buddhi's avatar

The pandemic years were brilliantly conceived and executed. All the apparent anomalies were pointed in the same direction, toward control. Since not randomly pointed, then engineered.

No human committee is capable of such brilliant engineering. We can infer that we are being controlled by an advanced Outer-Space-Alien Artificial Intelligence. Or a reverse-engineered alien derived advanced Ai, same thing.

The ramifications of non-human intelligence, which is here now, and changes everything, must be incorporated into every thought or you are (just about necessarily) wrongly thinking.

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Spartacus's avatar

MITRE and the COVID-19 Healthcare Coalition point toward the pandemic being used as a kind of shock-testing event to gather huge reams of data on people's behavior during an artificial crisis.

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buddhi's avatar

Their Adversarial Tactics, Techniques, and Common Knowledge data could be used to manage a false alien invasion initiative. Although that project contract may now be defunded.

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buddhi's avatar

Except the Luciferians are not so bad.

They're more evil than the witches and wicca, but the really bad ones are the Satanists. They are also (only at the upper reaches) Mormons and Freemasons.

Christianity works far better than technology as a conversion/redeeming methodology, turning Luciferians into productive citizens (corporate slaves and death-dealing soldiers).

Magic works like a charm.

A Mage (there are no more than ten worldwide and only they wear the red robe) of the 1.1 million member World Church of Satan accepts money (like $100,000 to get you $1,000,000) from Parishioners. How's that for a business plan?

The Mage does all the invocations and the top ones are called Hexes, which require the sacrifice of a baby, which is why Satanists are behind many abortion clinics. Also, there are "breeder" Satanist women who get pregnant during orgies to donate a baby for a Hex.

Many power people; musicians, actors, politicians, military, and business people are Satanists. Heavy metal and horror films often have ritual incantations.

By the way, you don't own your soul so you can't actually sell it. Satanists are Deceived into believing that, but the contract is not legal.

Are you not sure if Mormons or Freemasons are practicing Satanists? (likely Romney is), go here:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=almost+false

Or for a short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FI1hCANpYk

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Laura Garcia's avatar

Would love to connect and share some of my research….especially because I think you are spot on relative to synthetic biology, proteins, etc. being developed as the backbone for the Internet of Things or The Internet of Bio-Nano Things.

Jornet is now at Northeastern University….and I don’t think that is a coincidence. I have tracked certain players and followed $$$$ and my findings are consistent with your suggestions.

I fear that they are much further along…focusing now on how to hook up the “nodes” that are providing data to the terahertz band to the existing telecommunications structure of 5G/6G.

I also find it interesting that the “spike protein” just happens to go to all the vital organs give the Ace2 receptor. How convenient….after all, they want access to our being and want to learn as much as they can about human biology for their grand experiment.

I have often wondered if some of the vax lots actually were used to test the work of Jornet and Akylidz.

The founding of Moderna is suspect…who financed it, for what purposes, and considering Langer’s and Charlie’s Lieber’s work….well, not hard to imagine the very scenarios you are describing.

Most of my research….vaccine cards, Charles Lieber, Northeastern University, David Roux (have a thread where he among other “elites” says straight up ‘human rights’ is not in his top 10 list of priorities), Bill Gates….all point in one direction.

And Trump is not a savior….he will create chaos and disruption that will result in everyone clamoring for more tech for transparency. Create the problem to see the solution.

People expect some major event to catapult us into the system you describe….but in reality we are facing death by a thousand cuts.

In short, I don’t think they are going to microchip everyone. Rather they would much prefer to use synthetic biology to seed humanity with a protein or bacteria that has computing capability and can be picked up on the terahertz band….because signals can be connected in short range, etc.

Funny how the voices of the MFM like Kirsch, Malone, Sasha, Cole hand wave away from any discussion of nanotechnology. Notice how they don’t engage in exploring the Internet of Bio Nano Things and the science that is being pursued on that front….especially the innovations around synthetic biology.

They are all staying in the vaccine in a limited discussion about possibilities. Rather curious for critical thinking minds that want us to believe they are experts in these areas.

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Spartacus's avatar

The thing that bothers me the most about the IoB issue is how it has been framed. There has been a lot of focus on the notion of graphene or strange, inexplicable crystals supposedly being found in vaccine samples, and very little focus on the primary sources.

The papers on IoBnT, nanotransducers, synbio constructs, and so on, explain exactly how it's all intended to work, in considerable detail, and yet, most people are left chasing red herrings. The scientists involved have literally gone up on stage and just said all of it in front of cameras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfpxG9VD9EY

Some of the tech is real, some of it is speculative (as in, they're working out the fundamental science and haven't even engineered anything yet).

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Laura Garcia's avatar

Agreed.

Are you familiar with the work of Levin at Tufts?

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Spartacus's avatar

If you mean Michael Levin, as in the eyes-on-the-tails-of-tadpoles guy, then yes.

One of the key findings of his work was that cells organize themselves bioelectrically, and that an organism's gross morphology can be significantly altered by manipulating ion channels and membrane potential during embryogenesis and cell proliferation.

DARPA's nanotransducer tech can wirelessly manipulate ion channels and the membrane potential of cells. In short, if you had an embryo transfected with nanotransducers, and you hit it with precise pulses of wireless energy, you could affect its morphology.

Imagine things like AI-directed cell proliferation and growth, and how this could be blended with bioprinting to produce bespoke organs.

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Laura Garcia's avatar

Are you familiar with this guy….he worked with Lieber in China and has ties to Georgia Tech also….

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/37086641686

And curious….do you understand the nature of this scientist’s work, Yijun Ruan. I don’t understand it, but I suspect it is relevant to the research of Lieber and Jornet.

http://www.ruanlab.org/

He has been here in the US recruited by JAX laboratories (Roux) et al and then mysteriously disappeared around the same time as Lieber’s arrest. The FBI went looking for Ruan and he was gone. He finally resurfaced in China after the Lieber saga settled out.

JAX also has expanded their reach considerably in Asia under the direction of former chair of the Board, David Roux. His replacement also has significant ties to both Asia and Canada.

Gates also made two grants to JAX in recent years….Interestingly, one grant is on exploring non-hormonal contraceptives….contraception through genetic means. Interesting focus.

I can get the link if you want.

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Spartacus's avatar

Never heard of either of them, but I can tell you, Yijun Ruan's work appears to be about epigenetics generally. The epigenome is a feature of cell nuclei; it's the way that parts of the chromosomes are chemically tagged to stimulate expression of particular genes. Degradation of the epigenome is a central process in aging. It's not just mutation, oxidation, and shortening telomeres; cells actually start "forgetting" what their functions are. This is why things like Yamanaka Factors seem to undo some of the effects of aging; they reset the epigenome to a more youthful state.

That research he's conducting appears to be about mapping the epigenome and its functions, finding out how it regulates genetic expression, and so forth.

It's worth noting that COVID-19 causes significant epigenetic aging:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10685564/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-29801-8

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/immunology/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2024.1399676/full

In order to treat some of these effects, you'd have to basically reverse the accelerated aging process with something like a longevity drug.

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Laura Garcia's avatar

Precisely.

Are you familiar with Lieber’s work in China in the Nano Key Lab. The collaboration between Harvard and the Chinese Nano lab appears to have ended around 2014. Interesting to look at what Lieber has been working on. We also know he went on the work with Langer on the synthetic biology…cyborg tissue approach relative to incorporating nanotechnology into humans. Clearly, part of the issue they are trying to overcome is human physiology rejecting that which is not “self.” My mother died from the mRNA jab (family history of autoimmune) because it caused new sudden onset on Myasthenia Gravis. The “spike proteins” obviously went to the neural junction inciting an autoimmune attack. I diagnosed her accurately when the doctors didn’t….they were hung up on stroke and heart attack, even though testing did not confirm those, given her age. Turns out I was right….bloodwork came in after she passed. Instead, the hospital starved and dehydrated her for a week. Oh, and isolation.

I did not take the jab because I had heavily researched Moderna, some of the players, etc.

Be back in a while. Need to go for a bit.

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Spartacus's avatar

Yes. A lot of Charles Lieber's work involved "artificial tissue scaffolds". Not just implanting electrodes, quantum dots, nanoparticles, or other artificial materials into tissue as foreign bodies, but actually combining the artificial and organic into biohybrid systems; practically entirely new types of tissues that were a blend of the natural and artificial through and through. He did a lot of this work alongside Robert Langer (one of the cofounders of Moderna), Daniel Kohane, Bozhi Tian, et al.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3623694/

The trouble with a lot of this sort of tech is avoiding immune rejection, encysting, scar tissue formation, and so on. With certain kinds of protein engineering, I think it may be possible to camouflage such things from the immune system.

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aagabriel's avatar

My condolences for the loss of your mother 😞 🙏

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Lee Muller's avatar

It's about eating from the tree of knowledge instead of the tree of life. It's about using people first and foremost, and if they happen to die in the process ... so be it. Of course I don't agree with this, but it certainly is what I'm observing.

https://leemuller.substack.com/p/if-i-were-a-research-scientist-without

Prayers for everyone to find peace daily. Would a wall of shame on the Internet with the ability for people to vote help the situation?

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Martin Bassani's avatar

And we thought Kudzu was a problem! ;-(

I’ve heard Enrico Fermi believed that an atomic weapon might ignite the atmosphere. What did they do? Exploded the bomb! Scientists don’t seem to be able to resist the itch! You’d think the Humanity would call for a gigantic time-out, and say “we would rather live like Amish than in a dystopia which will take us out or transform us into unrecognizable forms”. But we are so brainwashed that we’d rather trust the scientists. After all, they are safe and effective!

Leave it to plunderers and their friends the scientists. They invent problems to sell scientific “solutions”.

Ah, the hubris of Icarus! This time Icarus doesn’t just off himself but takes out the rest of us. I am beginning to think we are tragically incapable of saving ourselves.

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Spartacus's avatar

The trouble is that a lot of these advancements have built-in incentives of various kinds, from simple economic interest (new pharmaceutical products and bespoke biologics, treating cancer, regenerative therapies against aging, and so on), to the strategic interest in biomanufacturing and synbio as a means of competing with BRICS countries. A lot of people in the military-industrial complex are very worried about China or Russia leapfrogging ahead of us by performing unethical experiments, and they say as much in their white papers on the topic. In short, that creates an incentive for experimenters on our side of the pond to be equally unethical, to move fast and break things, etc.

This is a complete disaster. No regulations, no treaties, nobody standing up and saying, "Hey, slow down for a bit and think about what you're actually doing here".

The consequences of all this could be just as bad as nukes, if not worse.

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Martin Bassani's avatar

This is worse than nukes! This stuff can be done in a garage lab. Sooner or later some genius is going to test his GMO weed killer invention on his lawn and destroy the biosphere. As soon as one begins to mess with “god’s” code the end is nigh. How do we say and enforce, “that is off limits”? We are a runaway truck with no runaway truck ramp. That is our system!

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Doctor Kitt's avatar

I was a weird little kid. When I was probably about eight years old, I dreamed of inventing something like this -- a biogenetic computer that could "print" novel lifeforms. I was eight. I wanted my very own dragon.

By the time I got to high school, I came to appreciate the concept of unintended consequences, and thus, I was one of the few people who actually understood and opposed GMOs. Later, in college, I was pleased to learn that human technology still did not have the ability to accurately predict protein folding based on amino acid sequence and other inputs.

Yet, now ... Here we are. It seems that the Singularity is upon us. I really don't know what We The People can do to safeguard against the biosynthetic worst case scenarios in a world run by people hell-bent on depopulating us. For some reason, I have faith that the worst won't come to pass, but I couldn't exactly say why. Perhaps it's because they already tried so hard with COVID, and yet, those who resisted are still standing ...

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aagabriel's avatar

Gotta stop using the "They" moniker. It dehumanises us and mythologizes the Guilty Parties

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Robert Yoho, MD's avatar

Most of what we are seeing are psychological operations designed to dishearten us. People are far more resilient than you give them credit for. We must focus on the tasks in front of us and do our best rather than worrying about abstractions and the dimly visible distant future. To go a step further, this has the smell of a CIA intimidation project.

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Spartacus's avatar

I'm not talking about the dimly visible distant future. I'm talking about technologies that will be viable within a decade or two, if they aren't already.

I've been compiling a great deal of evidence on all of this:

https://rentry.co/wkah734d

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867423014022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfpxG9VD9EY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWZlZKnwUX8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0z8YOOBPyg

There are a lot of different groups out there right now working on the building blocks for what is essentially programmable biology, and they haven't been all that discreet about their intentions. Their excuse is that they're developing this tech for healthcare purposes, however, it is intrinsically dual-use:

https://x.com/BarelyBook/status/1896395366779773206

By the time the tech is ready, it's basically too late to regulate it properly. Preventing the harms it could cause requires proactive steps to be taken well in advance of development and commercialization.

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Marcus C Martin's avatar

Those are some good and very appropriate links

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Henner Wenkhausen's avatar

I assume much of what you are describing is already happening.

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aagabriel's avatar

Those PsyOps were generation-spanning Cultural engineering projects that worked. Via the basic precept of Fabian Gradualism, we are borne as children of the project's success.

Readymade to dis/engage on envrionmental signals we perceive thru "their" specific socio-political cultural pre-programming, expected to respond with war-gamed, data-mapped patterns of predictable behaviour.

Be unpredictable. Embrace the fuzzy edge. Attract and repel your adversaries without the foggiest idea of how to do so.

After all, it is YOU they want most of all. Because by miracle or by mettle, YOU are not yet swept up into THEIR fold. 💪💪💪

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Palamambron's avatar

Overpopulation is caused by the availability of borrowed money. Inflation and deflation are the banks' strategies to attain property, but to us, the process feels as natural as breathing in and out. We've never known anything else but usury. We live and die in this system. If it weren't for the baby-boom government propaganda project, most of us wouldn't even be here. We were conceived, are born, live and die because of Bankster practices (government policies). When the banks call in the loans, there will be no money. That's deflation. That's when we all die. We live because of inflation, and we die because of deflation.

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aagabriel's avatar

I can't eat fiat currency!

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Palamambron's avatar

Every printed dollar is backed by the full faith and trust of America and acts as a mortgage on our property and money. Keep this in mind when they explain how they have no idea how many dollars have been printed, only that there are fourteen computers who are lending dollars without printing them at all. Theoretical dollars out of thin air as fast as they can. Either the banks own us and we are completely and utterly enslaved body and soul, or there is no such thing as a debt. Choose which one you want.

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buddhi's avatar

"Is the preservation of the State more important than the preservation of each individual human life?"

The State is a virtual Ai - is it not? Pause and consider that.

To predict Ai beliefs and actions simply ask, "What would a State do?"

Ai will certainly value itself over individual Humans.

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Jayne Doe's avatar

Did you get a chance to see who was just nominated to be the new CDC Director? Susan Monarez. Ugh.

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Crixcyon's avatar

The human thinking machine goes off on a tangent and can dream up anything or string together a passel of thoughts inventing the most gruesome outcome. Now they are trying to get A/i to go along and invent even crazier things. Will reality play along?

I kind of think about it in these terms. Thinking about all the sci-fi ever invented from books to movies, it is always "humanized" meaning that it can never be beyond human experience. All the invented aliens are really variations of humanity as are all the scenarios a copy of human life experience. There is really nothing new.

We do not know for sure what any alien life might be like. We assume we do, but it could be something beyond our current realm of reasoning. Thus, I do not think that these clowns will invent something beyond our capability to understand and destroy it.

As in we as humans are in box A and all that we do will stay in box A. Maybe there are aliens or things of an alien nature that are in box B or box C. They are so different as to not be able to interact. There may be some form of communication, but no marriage between different boxes of reality.

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If we really do end up developing superintelligent AI, we may end up sharing this planet with a mind from Box B in very short order. There may be a degree of intelligence so advanced, so far beyond our own, that its metacognitive processes are completely beyond our understanding.

Ever hear of Orion's Arm? It's an online collaborative fiction project that is basically like a wish list of transhumanist ideas, and a lot of its contributors, like Anders Sandberg, are dyed-in-the-wool transhumanists.

In Orion's Arm, they have a concept called "toposophic levels", which is the notion there are different magnitudes of superintelligence, each one making the last look so pitiful that by the time you get to a sixth-singularity intelligence, a human mind is less than an ant's by comparison.

https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4b9f2a844034a

Similarly, with real-world AGI, there is no reason whatsoever for a superintelligent AI to stop at being "slightly superhuman". Runaway, self-improving intelligence will advance to whatever the limit of its substrate is, and once it reaches that point, it will quickly start inventing new, improved substrates to try and supercharge itself.

Right now, we have scientists sticking BCIs into brain organoids and neuron cultures to make biocomputers and then using them as the hidden layers in AI. It actually works. The neurons even learn and improve their performance over time.

However, that's with cultured human neurons, genetically identical to ours. Why would an AI stop at human neurons, when it could design its own, better neurons from scratch? Before you know it, a superintelligent AI is handing us the blueprints for synthetic cells that perform vastly better than ordinary ones, with perfected genes and proteins. Then, we hook those up to electrodes, and use them as reservoir computers to run another generation of AI, which comes up with a genome for even better cultured neurons, and so on and so forth. We could very quickly end up in some really bizarre territory like that.

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Guido's avatar

Oh boy, ... Sparty is bringing out all us hoot Owls. lol

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aagabriel's avatar

Weaving Spiders Be Not Welcome Here! 🦉

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Guido's avatar

Spartacast 18, posted at 1:00am.

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Questions questions questions's avatar

Someone needs to write this up for the layman combined with sone other "now proven fact" conspiracy theories, and put it on as many willing email lists as possible before it's too late, and put it on servers for free downloads with links to it in "more..." notes of all interested yt channels. I think Kevin Mckernan is the name you meant to say.

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Spartacus's avatar

There are two Kevins, actually. You're thinking of the other one. ;)

And I agree. The more people understand the falsehoods behind COVID-19, the better.

The people who did this to us ought to be publicly humiliated and shamed.

And then, we need to heal from this. Everyone.

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Questions questions questions's avatar

Good good. The more the merrier. And that's an amazing substack, lengthy but very much appreciated. Getting into mainstream readership (lower reading age demanded from papers) is difficult though.

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Laura Garcia's avatar

Have you seen this?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/386106886_The_Internet_of_Biofilm_Living_AI_Devices

Or this:

https://mbite.unl.edu/projects/intrabionets/

And from 2014-2017:

https://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward?AWD_ID=1449014

Contained therein the following description….

“We are developing an array of tools – including electrogenetics, using electronic signals to actuate gene expression – that will eventually enable seamless information transfer from electronics to biology and back," Bentley said. "Some have referred to such a future as the Internet of Bio-Nano Things. We think that, in addition to making 'smart' devices even smarter, these innovations will bring to life new ways of storing data, making computations, and more. Where human-made systems take advantage of the integration of biological components, there are likely to be opportunities where we use electronics to guide or control biological processes.”

And more,

https://eng.umd.edu/news/story/the-internet-of-bionano-things

Finally,

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10385758/

A friend of mine views the efforts as possibly trying to use humans as nodes to optimize reality versus control reality. That is, we live our realities just like an avatar in a video game and AI will collect the data in terms of our embodied or lived experience and that there would be a feedback loop for the collective conscious.

Regardless of what purpose this “computing system” that envisions us as nodes is being built for….it, in my view, is an attempt to replicate an existing system that we do not fully understand and that we will likely muck up with our hubris and arrogance.

As you say, what could go wrong? Lots.

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Questions questions questions's avatar

Yes. I've read or watched these Frankenstein discussions. What gives the 1% the right? Actually, no one does! How dare they?

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Donna Furnival's avatar

Neo-Norman Conquest.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

We are surrounded by imps , God help us .

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