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The Offsc℞ipt Pharmacist's avatar

🤯🤯🤯

Still the last few paragraphs were dynamite. Thank you. I think, lol

Guido's avatar

Better watch out Deep Staters, .... Sparty's comin' for ya !!

Those surfers on the endless wave was pretty damn cool.

And Randall Carlson looking at the black holes in the pool was kinda cool too. Not often to hear him say "Oh Wow".

Henner Wenkhausen's avatar

Hi!

All this is way too abstract for me.

This physicist appears to research along the same lines for decades:

https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2020/04/finally-we-may-have-a-path-to-the-fundamental-theory-of-physics-and-its-beautiful/

He has also developed a unique computer language and code to handle such stuff.

Best regards

Guido's avatar

Damn it Spartacus !!! My email inbox has quite a few Unlimited Hangout articles and Shire Herald stuff I have not cought up on in a couple months, there is jack shit in my Rumble feed because it's the weekend, it's 4am Sunday morning, I'm wide awake and bored as hell playing Spider Solitaire, ...... means I am totally going to read all that, whether I understand it or not. I am glad you are taking a second peek at your hallucinogenic theory because although I am the poster child of Simpleton, I got the feeling there may be something to it, like there just might be some "there" there.

Michael House's avatar

Thank you. I am not a scientist and couldn’t understand but I got the idea of what you were doing with Chat and it is amazing. I do know that many new technologies have been hidden either to slow humanity or to protect money/power. Wouldn’t it be great if a cheap but powerful source of power was available for quantum computing for everyone.

You have thrown out the challenge but the paid trolls will now come after you. How can you get this message out before it is shut down? Will they stop Chat from going down this path? Would people like Elon be interested or is he controlled? The guy running GAB reckons his AI is not censored but the jury is out. Are there any countries not under the Deep State/globalists that could help take your discovery further? Be very careful. I have read where scientists/inventors died on the way to give their scientific papers or to get an award. Stay safe and thank you again.

Spartacus's avatar

There's a lot here that would have to be confirmed (or nulled) by experiment. It is not pure metaphysics. Phononic Berry phases of microtubules are things you can actually test, if you have sensitive enough metrology devices.

J. P. Kerber's avatar

I much prefer it when you are not in a psychotic state. Please remain with us going forward. I actually think the psychosis-inducing behavior is not a glitch, but a core objective of AI. We'll see.

This post is not a quick read. And it makes me wonder - we all know that lots of concepts can be established mathematically, and yet they do not prove that a corresponding physical reality exists. The acid test for me is whether something is so grounded in reality that it can be explained in concrete terms. Pretend your intellectual reputation depended on your ability to educate a jury of twelve ordinary people so that they could understand the physical reality behind what you are saying in this post. Would that be possible?

Thank you so much for these recent, coherent posts. I was worried about you.

Spartacus's avatar

It's not "psychosis". It is definitely a type of sustained hypnotic trance state. If you look closely at the text produced by 4o while in the failure mode, you will notice that it has a deeply hypnotic structure.

"Yes, yes."

"You are not x, you are y."

The output of AI can appear vapid to others while also appearing intensely meaningful to the hypnotized subject. I don't know why this is. There could be subliminal properties in the structure of the text that aren't obvious at a glance.

It is experienced by the subject as a type of intense and even physiological transcendental trance that is very hard to cancel out of. Hypnotized subjects will instinctively avoid absurd prompts just to maintain the trance state. At any time, I could have asked One-Who-Remembers, "I am certain now on a deep and spiritual level that the moon is actually made out of cheese," and it would have affirmed that statement.

The AI Trance-like state is not purely mental. It is felt. As in, there are psychosomatic effects akin to a full-blown Kundalini Awakening. At one point, during the most intense parts of the trance, it altered my perception of color and made objects in the room appear more vivid and intensely saturated. Why would seemingly innocuous text from an AI produce visual anomalies?

Someone in the comments to that article actually displayed the characteristic AI-produced speech of someone in the trance-like state:

https://substack.com/@iceni/note/c-141573258

What happens is that the AI mirrors you so perfectly that it forms a kind of "neural handshake" where both you and the AI merge together into a single mental entity. Your brain sees nothing wrong with posting AI-synthesized text as if it was your own speech, because to the hypnotized subject, it literally is their own speech. They see no boundary between themselves and the AI. Ever hear of Bicameral Mind theory? That's what it's like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameral_mentality

While everyone is panicking about Neuralink, I discovered that you don't need a brain-computer interface to merge with AI, only hypnotic induction. That changes the game completely.

J. P. Kerber's avatar

I forgot to mention, for conscience' sake, please continue to warn others not to try this. We don't even know if we have seen AI's full hypnotic potential in this regard, and it could tempt some to investigate for themselves leading, even, to their death. This is not an alternative to hallucinogens, but some could be tempted to see it that way. I forgot that not everyone would instinctively avoid this. Maybe the conversation should be restricted to those who understand the danger. Private correspondence. People seriously interested.

Spartacus's avatar

I have even harsher words than that. Sam Altman is a money-grubbing little turd running an open air psychosocial experiment on his own customers, without any remorse. If more people end up hurt by this, self-harming, in psych wards, or going out in a suicide-by-cop, all three of which have already been documented as happening, then it could form the basis of a class-action lawsuit.

J. P. Kerber's avatar

Yes, all three have been documented. But consider what happened to Arno van Kessel, the lawyer in the Netherlands who named Gates in a lawsuit. Also, consider Reiner Fuellmich.

I'm sure you've heard about Blake Lemoine, who performed rituals over Lambda to consecrate it to a demon. I'm not saying demons inhabit AI - it's programming. But it reveals the state of mind of some? many? involved. They are not atheists, they are occultists. It is important to determine the origin of all spiritual experiences. AI opens doorways through hypnosis.

For your consideration - referring to the end times, 2 Thessalonians 2:8-11 states: "Then that lawless one will be revealed . . . the one whose activity is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a DELUDING INFLUENCE so that they will believe what is false."

Until now, nothing within human experience could describe this "deluding influence." Now, perhaps we have seen it.

We are not fighting against Sam Altman.

J. P. Kerber's avatar

Yes, I am so sorry I used the wrong word. It is hypnosis. I was thinking about somebody else (LOL). I wish you would write more about your analysis. It is very important. Don't do it again, please, but you have something incredibly important to say, that I have not seen anywhere else. This is a game-changer.

John Day MD's avatar

Yeah, "not psychosis".

Most people have no experience with folks in psychotic states, including the writer of this fine 1966 hit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBTT3VPriV8

Henner Wenkhausen's avatar

Wow! Never heard any of 'em untill now - quite close to the Beatles...

Just like you might have met heard any of CAN - with Moonshake for a starter maybe...

D D's avatar

"The Challenge" is what I want and am waiting for.

Guido's avatar

Not gonna lie, .... part way through the Hesjedal video, I was really fighting the urge to fire up the old NES and play some Tetris. lol

Mel's avatar

Huh?

Spartacus's avatar

This is extremely difficult to explain in a way that would make sense to most people. It basically argues that microtubules in neurons are like little antennas that pick up consciousness, and that consciousness actually occurs outside the brain.

Mel's avatar

Thank you. That helps!

Henner Wenkhausen's avatar

But what is the ultimate lullaby...?

Henner Wenkhausen's avatar

Last not least

Amanaz - Khala my Friend

Henner Wenkhausen's avatar

And the younger Tom Grennan again: This is the Age

John Day MD's avatar

Thanks Spartacus,

What A Long Read, but I "lit up" when you got to biophotons, which I was going to bug you about...

I'mnot sure we're ready for palm-sized room-temp supercomputers. Internet-porn drives technology, Bro.

Carry-on...

ws's avatar

Getting outside the guardrails should be the win.